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      [quote=shark!;422143]im interested, what "left" are you talking about? what will these fucking "lefts" doing to the World? what is this "leftisms" bad intentions? In what way is it becoming more and more mainstream? are you saying lefts are people who strongly disagree with republicans?
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      I think you need to read my post again. You missed several points and several answers to the questions you just asked. I'll give a recap and add some things using numberings corresponding to the order of your sentences.

      1. the extreme left, the faction that opposes Republicans on every single issue no matter what. This proves an obsession with opposition and not an obsession with logic or the well being of the masses. It is unrealistic to think Republicans are automatically wrong on every single issue. That would be some pretty strange probability. Honest disagreement on most issues due to honest conclusions is totally different, but complete consistency with opposition seems to suggest a disturbing agenda. I'm sure there are exceptions.

      I said "the left" because the extreme left is becoming more and more dominant in the left wing itself.

      2. Those lefts create too much support for that whatever percentage of causes that are anti-Republican but wrong. Being wrong while creating political influence is something that people should do their best to avoid. It is much more important than whatever thrill or self esteem bump being oppositional while wrong provides.

      3. I said they have a lack of good intentions. They will take whatever side makes them feel like strong hippies or whatever. I think it's all about some power cult they can feel good about being part of. I think there are exceptions, but I think that is the main explanation.

      4. A lot of Hollywood is part of what I am talking about, and a lot of the other powerful people in the media are part of it. That is having a major impact on public opinion, some of which I think is wrong and therefore dangerous.

      5. I said nothing about being just strongly against Republicans. I was talking about being strongly against Republicans with 100% consistency. I am strongly against Republicans on a lot of issues, but I am careful not to oppose them on anything where they probably actually are right. The cost of being wrong in government policy is unnecessary deaths. I know you say that about Iraq, and I say that if the war in Iraq actually is the wrong policy, then I wish we had known that. Whatever is wrong is wrong and needs to be avoided, but I don't think the extreme liberals who oppose Republicans unconditionally have the same commitment.

      The McCarthyism point didn't show up in the quote above, but I remember it. Please tell me where it is you think I said being consistently anti-Republican should get them blacklisted? I am all for their right to speak and to believe like they do. I also believe in my right to say what I think of what they are saying.

      But the even more specific point of my initial post was about what they are doing to liberalism. I think if they would chill out and practice what they preach instead of being so vicious on television shows and using pressure tactics on their college students and that sort of thing, they would get a lot more support. I know I will never join a group that can't talk to me without being rude, and I know I am not alone. But I think that with most of the extreme left, support takes a back seat to the thrill of acting rude.
      Last edited by Universal Mind; 05-12-2007 at 04:02 AM.
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