Thread: ~They may assassinate me for this...~

What's wrong with credit cards?

Nothing assuming you pay off what you owe at the end of the month instead of building up a 12k debt like the average person in america. Sucks but if you have a 1,000 dollars saved up in the bank and no debt your richer than the average american.

Originally Posted by Alric

Nothing assuming you pay off what you owe at the end of the month instead of building up a 12k debt like the average person in america. Sucks but if you have a 1,000 dollars saved up in the bank and no debt your richer than the average american.

So really, it's "beware of credit cards if you're an idiot with your money."

I'm quite happy the average american is getting nailed by the credit card companies - it means I get better deals (since rates don't affect me cause I pay it all off).

Originally Posted by Replicon

What's wrong with credit cards?

If you miss a payment on anything, thing can raise the price on everything. Read through the contract you get when you buy a credit a card. Never miss a payment or you are screwed.

well... don't miss a payment then.

Thanks for the link. I think this is one of the most important things I have ever seen.

Woh, wait a minute... I don't have to pay taxes? Yah, there's a catch here. If that were so, I don't care what you think of the people of this country - but there has to be at least ONE person out there who would be able to get this message out and clear. As for fear of being assasinated, fuck that, you'd be worshiped by more people than you'd ever need to protect you!

Very interesting piece - I'd love to see a piece that debates it's contents, just out of curiosity.

I actually know a few people who don't pay taxes. And believe it or not, what they say is true. You have to be careful though because the government takes it very seriously. You may find yourself in prison anyway, if you don't have everything in order.

As for someone out there with the message. There is actually a few books and even a couple movies out on this subject. I also been to a few websites and forums which talk about it. So don't think this information isn't out there, its just not common knowledge.

The thing to understand is that our government is a bureaucratic nightmare. Look at how many people have trouble filling out their taxes. Information like this falls through the cracks all the time.

By the way if you try it, theres a very good chance of being arrested. Most people get arrested, and then the government threatens them, they are going to take away your house, your car, lock up your bank accounts. Most people are not interested in fighting the government, its scary. Thats probably the biggest way they get you. If they can get you to make some kind of deal they got you. If you however go to court and defend yourself and put up a good arguement, you will get away as they can't legally keep you. So its not a simple process.

Yeah, there's a very good chance of getting arrested, that's for sure. Never the less, people have done their homework, and still can't find any law that has been passed which states people have to pay however much it is of their paycheques to the government. Here's some more food for thought: Ron Paul on CNBC 2004 - UnConstitutional Income Tax

Originally Posted by Replicon

well... don't miss a payment then.

Don't spend money you don't have... or just get a DEBIT card... much easier to use

Well, a credit card is better, if you only buy what you can afford. Building credit means good things.

As for Ron Paul being radical, he is only radical when comparing him to other people running

Oh, I'm not saying he's radical. I meant the change in the system - a bit drastic compared to what we're used to.

Don't spend money you don't have... or just get a DEBIT card

Yep, I've been trying to do that. However, it depends on who I'm purchasing from. I don't like exposing my bank account info for online purchases and stuff.

Building credit means good things.

Credit is just another vice that can be used to manipulate people. People's lives have been devistated by identity theft. You can go from good upstanding citizen to being treated like a fraud or criminal simply by your credit history. Very sensitive information about us is nothing more than ones and zeros in a computer. Anyobe with access to those bits and bytes has you by the balls.

Anyone remember a show back in the 80's called Max Headroom? Semi-cheesy futuristic show. In one of the episodes (#4) the main character's record is updated by the government in order to have him caught so as not to expose a scandal. When his boss finds out what they charged him with "credit fraud" he replies "my God... that's worse than murder." I thought that was sooooo stupid back then - now it sort of makes sense.