Thread: Al-Qaeda doesn't actually exist, it's just fear-mongering on the part of the American goverment

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

They are killing our soldiers in Iraq, they have attacked several of our embassies, and they killed 3,000 American civilians on 9/11. Their publicly stated goal is to kill Americans wherever they can until we are all dead. Now imagine those people with WMD's they got from some government. Please explain how that could possibly not be a threat.

Well thats the fear talking again. What if they get WMD, what if they get a nuke, what if they take of a space satellite that is really a weapons plateform that can launch missile any where in the world. You can say "what if" all you want and keep thinking of horrible things that "could possible happen" but that doesn't make it a real threat. He made the post talking about just this, and here you are doing it again.

As for terrorists attacking us in Iraq. They are not so much terrorists but iraqis. And really what happens in iraq isn't a threat to people living in the US.

They have only done one major attack on us in their 20+ years of existence, and you yourself claimed we killed 2/3rds of them. Thats hardly what I would call a real threat.

I mean isreal has hundreds of unaccounted for nuclear weapons and we are their best friends, who knows who they could be giving them to. China has nuclear weapons and they have organ farms where they murder people and sell off their body parts, you really trust them with anything? Russia was our enemy for over 50 years, and even though we act nice to each other now, nothing has changed and we both hate each other. They have even more nukes than we do.

So before you worry about "what if" you should worry about what is. And the fact is, the people we know to have the stuff are far more dangerous than some terrorists.

See this was what I was saying my agnosticism thread
Everybody wants to know
Its such arrogance, for once admitt you dont know

I dont know - see its easy

The government tells me al-Qaeda is real, the conspiracists tell me it isnt
Both groups are chronic lyers. Trust me, none of you know wether al-Qaeda exists, however, regardless of anything Islamisist terror does exist. So call it what you will, it exists. I dont support the methods and sloppyness of the war on terror or the Iraq war but I do belive steps should be taken to prevent the greatest threat to mankind in a long time.

But on topic the OPer doesnt know and niether do you arguing against him or with him

Imran

Originally Posted by imran_p

See this was what I was saying my agnosticism thread
Everybody wants to know
Its such arrogance, for once admitt you dont know

I dont know - see its easy

The government tells me al-Qaeda is real, the conspiracists tell me it isnt
Both groups are chronic lyers. Trust me, none of you know wether al-Qaeda exists, however, regardless of anything Islamisist terror does exist. So call it what you will, it exists. I dont support the methods and sloppyness of the war on terror or the Iraq war but I do belive steps should be taken to prevent the greatest threat to mankind in a long time.

But on topic the OPer doesnt know and niether do you arguing against him or with him

Imran

How can you say you can never be sure of anything, then in the same sentence, say you know something for sure? You totally contradicted yourself.

I didnt say you cant know anything
I said you cant know this
the reason being you dont ahve first ahnd expeirence just information from two differnt groups both with their own agenda.

You dont know, face it,
Give me conclusive proof Al-Qaeda doesnt exist

Imran

Originally Posted by Alric

Well thats the fear talking again. What if they get WMD, what if they get a nuke, what if they take of a space satellite that is really a weapons plateform that can launch missile any where in the world. You can say "what if" all you want and keep thinking of horrible things that "could possible happen" but that doesn't make it a real threat. He made the post talking about just this, and here you are doing it again.

As for terrorists attacking us in Iraq. They are not so much terrorists but iraqis. And really what happens in iraq isn't a threat to people living in the US.

They have only done one major attack on us in their 20+ years of existence, and you yourself claimed we killed 2/3rds of them. Thats hardly what I would call a real threat.

I mean isreal has hundreds of unaccounted for nuclear weapons and we are their best friends, who knows who they could be giving them to. China has nuclear weapons and they have organ farms where they murder people and sell off their body parts, you really trust them with anything? Russia was our enemy for over 50 years, and even though we act nice to each other now, nothing has changed and we both hate each other. They have even more nukes than we do.

So before you worry about "what if" you should worry about what is. And the fact is, the people we know to have the stuff are far more dangerous than some terrorists.

OK. Al Qaeda is trying to aquire nuclear tech. Iran is too. There is a huge hole in downtown New York. The insurgency in Iraq is being perpetuated by non-Iraqis. The 9/11 conspiracy theory is retarted. Al Qadea is going to kill a whole lot of people if they buy a nuclear bomb, same with any other Islamic terrorist group. The United States is going to lead the fight against that.