Thread: Al-Qaeda doesn't actually exist, it's just fear-mongering on the part of the American goverment

Originally Posted by Alric

Its not so much that they don't exist but the fact that their not a ligitment threat to us.

They are killing our soldiers in Iraq, they have attacked several of our embassies, and they killed 3,000 American civilians on 9/11. Their publicly stated goal is to kill Americans wherever they can until we are all dead. Now imagine those people with WMD's they got from some government. Please explain how that could possibly not be a threat.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

They are killing our soldiers in Iraq, they have attacked several of our embassies, and they killed 3,000 American civilians on 9/11. Their publicly stated goal is to kill Americans wherever they can until we are all dead. Now imagine those people with WMD's they got from some government. Please explain how that could possibly not be a threat.

what a debate, how can you justify something while not knowing your own government? the good thingis i dont live in USA, and none of these problems are related to me.

And yet i keep thinking on are americans blind or something? seriously everybody in east knows that bin laden never existed, nor the stupid al-qaida group.

CIA created hussain, all the terrorist group were organized just to keep americans in place like a former keeps his cows in place.

This is how the world really works no matter what country you are, you are being watched. Just like being in jail. We call it Freedom LOL!

anyway i expressed what i was laughing at hope you enjoy it

Originally Posted by born_2_kill

what a debate, how can you justify something while not knowing your own government? the good thingis i dont live in USA, and none of these problems are related to me.

And yet i keep thinking on are americans blind or something? seriously everybody in east knows that bin laden never existed, nor the stupid al-qaida group.

CIA created hussain, all the terrorist group were organized just to keep americans in place like a former keeps his cows in place.

This is how the world really works no matter what country you are, you are being watched. Just like being in jail. We call it Freedom LOL!

anyway i expressed what i was laughing at hope you enjoy it

No matter what you believe, you do not know our government better than we do. No way. Your media is to bitterly bias against us.

This post makes you sound mentally challanged. "The CIA created Hussein"? My government created fanatical Muslims to keep us in place like cows?

You don't even deserve a response. It is quite obvious you are bitter for living in America's little sister.

Remember kid, more education, less brainwashing

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Your media is to bitterly bias against us.

This post makes you sound mentally challanged. "The CIA created Hussein"? My government created fanatical Muslims to keep us in place like cows?

You don't even deserve a response. It is quite obvious you are bitter for living in America's little sister.

Remember kid, more education, less brainwashing

Ok, I just want to say.... First of all, don't talk about our media, because 80% of OUR media, comes directly from yours. The majority of our television is American television, and the majority of Canadians watch American news more than they watch their own. I actually can't even recall ever hearing anything negative coming from our media about Americans.

Also, saying that he's bitter for living in "America's little sister"...? I don't know, but to me, that sounds incredibly ignorant and like you're just trying to be an ass, and implying that America is better than Canada for no good reason.

His opinions are his own, I'm pretty sure he didn't get "The CIA created 'Hussain'" from any teacher or Canadian media source....

Originally Posted by Bayside

Ok, I just want to say.... First of all, don't talk about our media, because 80% of OUR media, comes directly from yours. The majority of our television is American television, and the majority of Canadians watch American news more than they watch their own. I actually can't even recall ever hearing anything negative coming from our media about Americans.

Also, saying that he's bitter for living in "America's little sister"...? I don't know, but to me, that sounds incredibly ignorant and like you're just trying to be an ass, and implying that America is better than Canada for no good reason.

His opinions are his own, I'm pretty sure he didn't get "The CIA created 'Hussain'" from any teacher or Canadian media source....

Although it is rude, I have plenty of reasons to say that America is better than Canada. But, where you live doesn't matter, as you and I live the same lives.

Now you know how it feels. I get dogged for being an American all the time. We are stereotyped more than any people on the planet, and Canadians don't have to deal with that. It sucks ass, doesn't it? Now, all I said was your country was America's little sister. We are called "fat asses", "dumb asses", "fascists", and "war mongers" among many other things. I gave your country a name while others disrespect my people. Which is worse?

Mainly it was a joke, and i apologize if I offended you. I am also am sorry for myself for stooping to their level.

No problem, perhaps I took it a little too seriously.

Don't think us Canadian's don't get stereotyped either though, a good deal of people are still convinced that as soon as you hit the American/Canadian border, it's just a big sheet of snow and ice from there on, so we're all labeled as ice-fishing igloo dwellers, who love hockey and maple syrup.... We're also known as the pussies of the world pretty much. I don't mind though, the only thing that does piss me off is the complete ignorance to how we live. A lot of Americans that I've met really are convinced that it snows 10 months out of the year here, when really, we're lucky if we get maybe four actual snow storms per year in the course of maybe two or three months....

Of course though, I understand as American's are the main focus of the world right now, they obviously get it much worse and much more often than we do.

Originally Posted by Bayside

No problem, perhaps I took it a little too seriously.

Don't think us Canadian's don't get stereotyped either though, a good deal of people are still convinced that as soon as you hit the American/Canadian border, it's just a big sheet of snow and ice from there on, so we're all labeled as ice-fishing igloo dwellers, who love hockey and maple syrup.... We're also known as the pussies of the world pretty much. I don't mind though, the only thing that does piss me off is the complete ignorance to how we live. A lot of Americans that I've met really are convinced that it snows 10 months out of the year here, when really, we're lucky if we get maybe four actual snow storms per year in the course of maybe two or three months....

Of course though, I understand as American's are the main focus of the world right now, they obviously get it much worse and much more often than we do.

Canada sent troops to Iraq. As far as I'm concerned you're not pussies. I have to admitt, though, that i thought it snowed for like half the year.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

They are killing our soldiers in Iraq, they have attacked several of our embassies, and they killed 3,000 American civilians on 9/11. Their publicly stated goal is to kill Americans wherever they can until we are all dead. Now imagine those people with WMD's they got from some government. Please explain how that could possibly not be a threat.

Well thats the fear talking again. What if they get WMD, what if they get a nuke, what if they take of a space satellite that is really a weapons plateform that can launch missile any where in the world. You can say "what if" all you want and keep thinking of horrible things that "could possible happen" but that doesn't make it a real threat. He made the post talking about just this, and here you are doing it again.

As for terrorists attacking us in Iraq. They are not so much terrorists but iraqis. And really what happens in iraq isn't a threat to people living in the US.

They have only done one major attack on us in their 20+ years of existence, and you yourself claimed we killed 2/3rds of them. Thats hardly what I would call a real threat.

I mean isreal has hundreds of unaccounted for nuclear weapons and we are their best friends, who knows who they could be giving them to. China has nuclear weapons and they have organ farms where they murder people and sell off their body parts, you really trust them with anything? Russia was our enemy for over 50 years, and even though we act nice to each other now, nothing has changed and we both hate each other. They have even more nukes than we do.

So before you worry about "what if" you should worry about what is. And the fact is, the people we know to have the stuff are far more dangerous than some terrorists.

See this was what I was saying my agnosticism thread
Everybody wants to know
Its such arrogance, for once admitt you dont know

I dont know - see its easy

The government tells me al-Qaeda is real, the conspiracists tell me it isnt
Both groups are chronic lyers. Trust me, none of you know wether al-Qaeda exists, however, regardless of anything Islamisist terror does exist. So call it what you will, it exists. I dont support the methods and sloppyness of the war on terror or the Iraq war but I do belive steps should be taken to prevent the greatest threat to mankind in a long time.

But on topic the OPer doesnt know and niether do you arguing against him or with him

Imran

Originally Posted by imran_p

See this was what I was saying my agnosticism thread
Everybody wants to know
Its such arrogance, for once admitt you dont know

I dont know - see its easy

The government tells me al-Qaeda is real, the conspiracists tell me it isnt
Both groups are chronic lyers. Trust me, none of you know wether al-Qaeda exists, however, regardless of anything Islamisist terror does exist. So call it what you will, it exists. I dont support the methods and sloppyness of the war on terror or the Iraq war but I do belive steps should be taken to prevent the greatest threat to mankind in a long time.

But on topic the OPer doesnt know and niether do you arguing against him or with him

Imran

How can you say you can never be sure of anything, then in the same sentence, say you know something for sure? You totally contradicted yourself.

I didnt say you cant know anything
I said you cant know this
the reason being you dont ahve first ahnd expeirence just information from two differnt groups both with their own agenda.

You dont know, face it,
Give me conclusive proof Al-Qaeda doesnt exist

Imran

Originally Posted by Alric

Well thats the fear talking again. What if they get WMD, what if they get a nuke, what if they take of a space satellite that is really a weapons plateform that can launch missile any where in the world. You can say "what if" all you want and keep thinking of horrible things that "could possible happen" but that doesn't make it a real threat. He made the post talking about just this, and here you are doing it again.

As for terrorists attacking us in Iraq. They are not so much terrorists but iraqis. And really what happens in iraq isn't a threat to people living in the US.

They have only done one major attack on us in their 20+ years of existence, and you yourself claimed we killed 2/3rds of them. Thats hardly what I would call a real threat.

I mean isreal has hundreds of unaccounted for nuclear weapons and we are their best friends, who knows who they could be giving them to. China has nuclear weapons and they have organ farms where they murder people and sell off their body parts, you really trust them with anything? Russia was our enemy for over 50 years, and even though we act nice to each other now, nothing has changed and we both hate each other. They have even more nukes than we do.

So before you worry about "what if" you should worry about what is. And the fact is, the people we know to have the stuff are far more dangerous than some terrorists.

OK. Al Qaeda is trying to aquire nuclear tech. Iran is too. There is a huge hole in downtown New York. The insurgency in Iraq is being perpetuated by non-Iraqis. The 9/11 conspiracy theory is retarted. Al Qadea is going to kill a whole lot of people if they buy a nuclear bomb, same with any other Islamic terrorist group. The United States is going to lead the fight against that.