Okay, so look one step before the statements you just made. And plus you "woodwork" mentality isn't a fact last time I checked. Terrorists aren't like ants, and if they are they are ant's that are shapeshifted from humans, because what we are doing is only GROWING the ant farm. People look at these extremist groups and then look at what we do and then say "Oh these extremists are right." This is why Osama Bin Laden is more popular in Pakistan then their own "Extremist Fighting" leader. We made Osama Bin Laden who he is, why did he turn on us? Iran would have wiped out Saddam Hussien if we hadn't beefed up his military. Israel was a country that was PUT there by the west which is why they are so pissed off. Imagine how irritated we would be if china forced tibet to be in part of canda (a weak analogy I know). But I don't think you are looking at the reality of the situation.

Why I support Ron Paul is because I agree with him. If we just leave they will stop caring about us and turn onto their own governments. If we put our focus on security and intelligence rather than the cost of war I think it would be much more effective. We have the same goals, I just feel yours idea isn't working. I don't have some pro terrorist agenda and that is why it is difficult to discuss this because it seems so ingrained in you this "for us or against us" mentality. Either you support the war or you are a terrorist sympathizer. The world just isn't that black and white.

I agree with Ron Paul that our way of life should be lead by example. There are more peaceful democratic societies that lead a much better example than us. People hate us because of what we do, because of spreading democracy. Going over to the middle east and telling their populations "Hey we are going to give you democracy by destroying your country and then rebuilding it. Have fun living in fear for an indefinite period of time while we make this place better." Or with Israel "We are going to give you democracy by shoving these people out of where they are living and give it to you, good luck! We will give you stuff!" Just start to think of what it would be like doing that here. Look at how much we hate cuba for crying out loud.