Thread: Lets talk about drugs!

That's awesome, SKA, I'm glad to hear your search for yourself was successful. I'd like to add I admire your bravery of having to face opiates to calm your mind. For someone so intelligent it's hard to believe you have ADHD.

And for the record, I hated ritalin. My best friend has really bad ADD too and was prescribed it, and I asked to try it during school in grade 10. That chemical feeling was interesting yet in a sense disturbing. It's like it took a hold of your brain and forced it to focus. Needless to say I worked really hard in school that day.

Then they rediagnosed my friend and prescribed him the strongest form of ritalin: conserta. I tried that too and it just yanked you out of everything that was going on around you and made your thought process concentrated yet minimal. Weird stuff.

For the record, I had Adderal, and I absolutely loved and hated that stuff. If you take enough its longlasting cocaine, but you can't sleep or eat for maybe days at a time.

When I was on that I lost so much weight, so I say fuck it.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

For the record, I had Adderal, and I absolutely loved and hated that stuff. If you take enough its longlasting cocaine, but you can't sleep or eat for maybe days at a time.

When I was on that I lost so much weight, so I say fuck it.

What does Adderal treat?

Day one off the drugs! Things haven't been to bad, besides the headache and hazy head. I'm not touching anything for 3 months, and then I'll limit my use of drugs to only on the weekends. I'm going to allow marijuana every weekend, and 1 trip per week (probably won't end up tripping that much). I think it will be alright to occasionally do the more recreational drugs every two weeks or something, like alcohol, opiates and MDMA (any anything that wouldn't be considered a spiritual endeavor, excluding the common stimulants - bad shit).

I'm still not completely sure if I want to start using DXM again occasionally, and if I did it would be at the most once a month, and always extracted.

What does Adderal treat?

Adderal is used for ADHD treatment (bad idea in my opinion) and weight loss. Its contains different amphetamine salts.

drugs today are such a petit-bourgeois preoccupation. I guess us white people of the first world need to keep occupied.
are you guys all drowning on ennui? But who can blame you anyways?

Originally Posted by wer

Adderal is used for ADHD treatment (bad idea in my opinion) and weight loss. Its contains different amphetamine salts.

They prescribed it to me for "ADD". I actually just lied about it. Its amazing that all you have to do is lie in the right way to get legal cocaine. You're right about it being a bad idea. If you want to study, you will study twice as hard, but if you don't want to study, you will procrastinate twice as much.

Originally Posted by wer

Day one off the drugs! Things haven't been to bad, besides the headache and hazy head. I'm not touching anything for 3 months, and then I'll limit my use of drugs to only on the weekends. I'm going to allow marijuana every weekend, and 1 trip per week (probably won't end up tripping that much). I think it will be alright to occasionally do the more recreational drugs every two weeks or something, like alcohol, opiates and MDMA (any anything that wouldn't be considered a spiritual endeavor, excluding the common stimulants - bad shit).

You sound just like me. If you can pull that off, you are a badass. I used to say stuff like that to my friends in AA and COPAC, and they would laugh their asses off and tell me what I was saying was textbook case addict talk. I have yet to pull off that kind of lifestyle for more than a few weeks at a time. I always slide my way back into the abyss. Be careful.

Wer. One thing that might help is to cut off your drug-supplies; If you keep hanging around with friends that abuse drugs you're going to have a harder time resisting the temptation. Believe me: Ignore the impulses generated by your temptations and it will really pay off. Where do you get your opiates from?

I say: quit opiates alltogether. Not even a single one ever anymore. If it may help you try and compensate this with smoking more Marijuana untill you are ready to get a better grip on your cannabis use too. One step at a time.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

They prescribed it to me for "ADD". I actually just lied about it. Its amazing that all you have to do is lie in the right way to get legal cocaine. You're right about it being a bad idea. If you want to study, you will study twice as hard, but if you don't want to study, you will procrastinate twice as much.

Adderal is cocaine?

Originally Posted by Sandform

Adderal is cocaine?

Adderal is an amphetamine, which is the main active ingredient in cocaine. So, yes.

Drugs rock.

Awesome.

Is it true that stuff like LSD stays in your bloodstream, and you can randomly have "flashbacks" where you start getting LSD coming out randomly to effect you?

No, but it is stored in your spinal cord so after time if you crack your neck or something you can get flashbacks.

Originally Posted by DoomedOne

No, but it is stored in your spinal cord so after time if you crack your neck or something you can get flashbacks.

Freaking neat!...well, not entirely.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Adderal is an amphetamine, which is the main active ingredient in cocaine. So, yes.

since fucking when?

Originally Posted by shark!

since fucking when?

Since the beginning to time!!!

Originally Posted by SKA

Wer. One thing that might help is to cut off your drug-supplies; If you keep hanging around with friends that abuse drugs you're going to have a harder time resisting the temptation. Believe me: Ignore the impulses generated by your temptations and it will really pay off. Where do you get your opiates from?

I say: quit opiates alltogether. Not even a single one ever anymore. If it may help you try and compensate this with smoking more Marijuana untill you are ready to get a better grip on your cannabis use too. One step at a time.

Thanks for the advice. I'm not worried about opiates, never had a problem with them (no withdrawal, no addiction, no comedown), besides, I don't use them much at all. Marijuana is a different story, it completely wares me out and fogs my mind, plus I get unpleasant comedowns (not to mention energy blockage)

I still hang out with my drug using friends (only two use drugs, the rest quit around the same time I did). Of course, I don't hang out around them when they are getting blown off their ass, but I stay friends and still chill with them when they aren't smoking.

Wer. Why don't you start with a rule to only smoke Marijuana in the weekends? I can tell you smoking a Joint after not having done so the entire week is MUCH more rewarding, not to mention the regaining of mental clearity.

Just weigh out all pros and cons of this rule and come to a decision.

Originally Posted by SKA

Wer. Why don't you start with a rule to only smoke Marijuana in the weekends? I can tell you smoking a Joint after not having done so the entire week is MUCH more rewarding, not to mention the regaining of mental clearity.

Just weigh out all pros and cons of this rule and come to a decision.

Thats easier said than done for me. My main income comes from marijuana and i always have excessive amounts lying around. I dont see anything wrong with it so i blaze up about every chane i get. Im not addicted to it nor even have the ability to get addicted, its just my way of living.

Different people repond differently to drugs. Some like em, some hate em, some become addicted, some just abuse, some stay casual users... Ive been a heavy abuser in the past but never addicted to anything. it all depends on the person whether they can still be reponsible and whether they have a potential for substance addiction.

It started with weed until regular use. Then i tried cocaine... spent thousands on it, sometimes doing 5-6 grams in a day by myself. but quit cold turkey when it got boring... no side effects. never done it again.

inbetween there somewhere i tried XTC... loved it... rolled 2-3 times a week for prolly 6 months, taking many beans during each of those rolls. also quit that cold turkey no side effects. never done it again.

tried heroine/oxymorphone/oxycodone/ all that shit... couldnt do em too often cuz i dont like puking, but loved em and spent thousands on all this also. the people i did these with all became addicted with severe detox problems when they try to quit... for me, quit cold turkey, never done em again. meh i lied, still do hydrocodone sometimes.

done tons of benzos... only drugs that can actually make me black out... stopped doing these cuz they lost the effect.

done just about ever psychedelic known to man, sometimes for a month straight trippin... quit all that shit except for the occasional trip. i didnt used to like these so much, but now they are my fav/ only drug i use besides MJ.

ive done meth several times and that shit is pretty intense, but i quit that shit and never done it again, no cravings. there is no reason to do this stuff.

ive even done inhalants a few times. only ether and freon and nitrous though. this shit is just plain bad. no use of this shit is necessary.

w/e else i missed, ive probably still done lol.

smoked cigarettes for 7 years, everyday about a pack, quit last year one day and its been no problem since.

so for me, ive always been able to remain a responsible person and funtion properly, do school etc... even when i tripped for a month straight I went to work trippin and nobody noticed besides pupils... said i had perscribed eye drops tht did it lol. and i dont think i can get addicted to anything, no matter what.

now, all i use regularly is marijuana which i believe is no big deal except for the legal problems and some lung damage. i dont recommend anyone ever abusing as much as i did. just about anyone would have ended up having a fucked up life or having to go to rehab. I just love drugs, love getting fucked up, love everything about them. but i have quit all that shit to help live a healthier life and to see my kid grow up. Im probably even going to quit MJ someday if i ever stop selling it... because then i wont want to spend the money on it.

My idea on drugs is that they are neither good or bad, depending on the person it varies. some drugs can cause a positive outcome, making you a happier person and cause you to see things differently, but really nothing more. psychedelics being the only ones that have any long term positive outcome, it is still all in your mind. which means it is still possible to get the same outcome and insights w/o using them, but using them makes it soo much easier and more fun.

also, cocaine isnt an amphetamine.. why do so many people this this? its basically its own thing... a crystalline tropane alkaloid.

I <3 drugs... in fact. I'm on them right now.

Weed and some Devil's Springs Vodka.

w00t!



Psychedelics(shrooms LSD ketamine) and soft drugs(weed and the like) are ok


hard drugs like speed coke heroin meth are NOT.


alcohol and cigarettes are terrible!

psyedellic drugs are not addicting. And the most addicting part about weed isnt even the high after a while, its going out, getting it, and hitting a bong! As long as its natural I'd have no problem trying it. Ive only done weed and salvia divinorum -- it was the crappy black shit, but I still made amazing realizations about life which I want to continue to do using psyedellics.

And actually, it has been my experience that weed its an amazing plant. It improved asthema condition INCREDIBLY and dulled my alergies to a minimum.

ExPAnD yOuR mIND

Feeling like a dog in heat.
Bite my lip and close my eyes, take me away from paradise.

What annoys me is that people so often use high crime rates as an anti-drugs argument. As you can see here Austrailia, England and Wales all have the highest crime rates on these lists. Laws are very strict on drugs in the countries with the highest crime rates (actually I was recently told that even salvia divinorum [spelling?] is illegal in Austrailia).