Thread: Lets talk about drugs!

It seems as though people who are into psychedelics are into (or are quickly interested in the idea of) similar things such as lucid dreaming...and vice versa. Not allowing the discussion in this forum is really stupid. How are people supposed to learn about the reality of psychedelics (and other drugs including alcohol) when discussing it is banned? That would be like banning LD and philosophy discussions on a drug forum.

Back to movies...Requiem for a Dream is really good.

Dreaming is psychedelic.
By the way, there is no mention of drugs in the forum rules, so the admins have broken the rules and should be banned OK, a warning will be enough this time XD

I have a question about drugs, maybe you guys can help.

I have asthma, and i use a Combivent inhaler. I have a little chamber that i fill, and when i breath it in, my body gets all tingly and stuff and my eyes start to black out and my head beats hard and stuff. It feels like im getting seriously high off of it. Does anyone know whats in Combivent that would do that?

Originally Posted by C911

I have a question about drugs, maybe you guys can help.

I have asthma, and i use a Combivent inhaler. I have a little chamber that i fill, and when i breath it in, my body gets all tingly and stuff and my eyes start to black out and my head beats hard and stuff. It feels like im getting seriously high off of it. Does anyone know whats in Combivent that would do that?

Did anyone answer your question? I'm sorry C911.

Continue using this medication and talk with your doctor if you have any of these less serious side effects:

headache, dizziness, nervousness;
drowsiness or sleep problems (insomnia);
cough, hoarseness, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose;
dry mouth, unusual taste in your mouth;
tremors, numbness or tingly feeling;
nausea, vomiting, upset stomach, diarrhea, constipation; or
blurred vision.


I bolded dizziness cause i'm assuming that is why you feel you are getting high. I will add the reason why later if I find it.

a few reasons why might be medication...
Are you on any other medication?
Such as...

atropine (Donnatal, and others);
belladonna;
clidinium (Quarzan);
dicyclomine (Bentyl);
glycopyrrolate (Robinul);
hyoscyamine (Anaspaz, Cystospaz, Levsin, and others);
mepenzolate (Cantil);
methantheline (Provocholine);
methscopolamine (Pamine), scopolamine (Transderm-Scop);
propantheline (Pro-Banthine);
a beta-blocker such as acebutolol (Sectral), atenolol (Tenormin), carvedilol (Coreg), metoprolol (Lopressor), or propranolol (Inderal);
a stimulant, ADHD medication, diet pills, or over-the-counter cold or allergy medicines;
a diuretic (water pill) such as furosemide (Lasix), bumetanide (Bumex), ethacrynic acid (Edecrin), torsemide (Demadex), hydrochlorothiazide (Hydrodiuril), chlorthalidone (Hygroton, Thalitone), or chlorothiazide (Diuril); or
an MAO inhibitor such as isocarboxazid (Marplan), phenelzine (Nardil), rasagiline (Azilect), selegiline (Eldepryl, Emsam), or tranylcypromine (Parnate).

Stolen from here

The fact of the matter is, if we could be sure that all drug discussion was done responsibly, and did not stand too much of a chance of anyone - without a sufficient level of education on whatever drug is being talked about - going out and diving into something just because they heard about how "Ohhh so fucking cool" it was, we'd be a lot more open to allowing the discussion on the forum. (And my position is not biased, as I've done my fair share of psychadellics(sp) and, personally, have no problem with anyone talking about them, but I understand the reasoning behind the restriction and I'm surprised at how much of you don't.)

Unfortunately, this isn't the case. No offense to anyone, but there is simply too much whimsical posting around here, and too many impressionable newbies (remember: the age restriction is rather low, and we have to take these things into account) to allow drug/related threads to become bogged down with irresponsible things like "Ohhhhhh maaaann...I was SOOOOOO wasted!! I smoked a 20rock and shot up a little black tar and had the best night of my life!! WWEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! "

As members, none of you have any responsibility to take if some impressionable young mind pops off and decides to take a wild ride, after hearing some positive banter about how great a drug is, and gets him/herself killed. As far as admin and, most importantly, the owner of the site, it is simply not a risk worth taking. Everyone is willing to compromise and allow drug talk that is dream-related (which, if you ask me, is not an oppressive censorship, but an attempt to find a middle-ground), and will gladly direct anyone wanting other off-topic, off-site information about drugs and their effects sites where they can research them.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

As members, none of you have any responsibility to take if some impressionable young mind pops off and decides to take a wild ride, after hearing some positive banter about how great a drug is, and gets him/herself killed. As far as admin and, most importantly, the owner of the site, it is simply not a risk worth taking.

Agreeable terms if you ask me. I mean we can't really be mad at you for doing what is responsible. I have no quibble over the closing/removal of this thread.

However I do feel that this is kind of like the teaching safety vs. abstinence problem...People are going to do it anyway...is it really more safe to let people be ignorant about it? Still though..younger people are more apt to do things if they are introduced to it more often. So I can see both sides really.

Originally Posted by Sandform

However I do feel that this is kind of like the teaching safety vs. abstinence problem...People are going to do it anyway...is it really more safe to let people be ignorant about it? Still though..younger people are more apt to do things if they are introduced to it more often. So I can see both sides really.

I understand. That is part of the reason why the "censorship" of off-topic drug discussion is such a hard issue for any of us to settle on. There are good points made on either side of the issue, and we are not dismissing anyone's point of view, now matter what side of the fence they stand on. But, if the topic of drugs comes up in a thread related to dreaming, we are still able to provide some sort of information (and, like I said, anyone requesting more can be directed to sites like erowid, etc.) but, I believe, it's best to narrow the floodgates that allow just any sort of drug discussion to just run rampant around here. It's not without it's share of sacrifice, I agree but, with the interest of this community in mind, it may be what's best.