Thread: Ecstasy on the Rise...What's your take? :D

It takes time but eventually ecstacy is almost a natural side-effect to meditation. Granted, not the same type of ecstacy high but a much cleaner, wholesome one that gets more potent the better you get. The way I hear ecstacy and enlightenment being described, it seems like enlightenment is almost a permanent ecstacy trip because your awareness of the world is increased so much you can enjoy the beauty of it to the maximum.

I think I feel that, it's not exactly like that trip I had but...ever since I had this "epiphany", I haven't had a moment of suffering or stress. everything is nicer. it isn't exactly like the trip but, yeah I can see that. maybe I've acheived enlightenment, I think I have. I would like to ask a buddhist though.

any setting on E will cause you to have one of the best possible experiences for those settings, unless ppl are sketch and ask about you pupils and why your rubbing your hair and moaning OMG OMG haha. other drugs can def cause better feelings, but maybe not for everyone. dont go to a theme park if its super hot, or anywhere that its super hot.. thats prolly the number 1 buzzkill. Just be with people you can get along with, no matter how many people that is. sex is the main purpose of taking that drug for me (beat that shit up for hours... lol), or dancing, and music is a must. you are definatly much more clear headed on e than other psychedelics but I dont really consider e psychedelic, ecxept for a few pills. mainly the pills that have DPT,LSD, or DMT in em (super rare)


green clovers (LSD based), plain white rectangular pill (dunno WTF this was, fun tho), big fat pink C(total tweekage/dance), orange smilies (laughed for 8 hours), yellow butterflies (made colors so intense/spiritual),and red shields (DMT/DPT based, size of a quarter) ... are the only psychedelic ones ive come across most of the other ones just feel like a minor version of meth or something.

Ps: when people say single stack, double stack, or triple stack, just disregard that shit.... theres all diff sizes and some lil ones can pack a more powerful punch than big ones. Those people jus try to sell "Triple stacks" for more... total BS

No, but you did reach a new stage. There are several steps that you climb on the way to enlightenment and it sounds like you managed to hit the top of your first plateau. Have you ever had a spiritual epiphany before? They are described as moments when you have a complete loss of memory for a short period of time because your spirit went on to experience something very great which you cannot recollect and while it was doing that your body went on autopilot. I haven't had one yet though I've had many intellectual epiphanies that have put me more at ease in the world.

Eventually there's a stage of inner peace you can reach, though this is still only like a quarter of the way to enlightenment. And ignore my fractions, the process of obtaining enlightenment is not conceptual, and can't really be understood though it can be felt, realized and integrated.

And I'd be wary about just asking any old buddhist because the vast majority of buddhists follow a false religon like the vast majority of Christians that interpret John 3:16 literally instead of practicing One Love. Buddhists that act like real masters get the credit when they only have a conceptual understanding of the Beyond, which is retarded because you can't conceptually grasp the Beyond. Truly enlightened masters act nothing like the typical ones going around thinking they're enlightened just because they know a bunch of useless, symbolic facts about the afterlife.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

I'd like to hand it to the admins for being reasonable in this matter though. I understand your opinions and your concerns about this website's reputation and I would not want to hurt this websites reputation but I just think taking a strong stance of censorship against something considered deviant is a bit hypocritical for a site focused on a subject considered by many to be satanic..

Thanks Omnius. One thing to consider, Satanism is not illegal, nor are most forms of deviant behaviour. I enjoy and celebrate deviance, it adds spice and excitement to life!

Now, that said, I still cannot in good concience allow postings advocating the use of illegal substances or the misuse of legal substances, especially by minors. If even one person is harmed, legal issues or not, I would carry that burden with me for many years.....

Now, let's get back on track, the documentary.....?

Have you ever had a spiritual epiphany before? They are described as moments when you have a complete loss of memory for a short period of time because your spirit went on to experience something very great which you cannot recollect and while it was doing that your body went on autopilot. I haven't had one yet though I've had many intellectual epiphanies that have put me more at ease in the world.

If you can't recollect a spiritual epiphany, what good is it? I've had a few epiphanies, the first one I remember had me crying (in happiness). but not one like that. and I don't see any use in one like that, either.

The documentary intrigues me, because it isn't some bullshit filled horror story about why drugs are all bad, for any reason. I don't think it glorified it necessarily, as it had criticism of it as well. But, it's awesome that not all news stories are influenced by the what the government wants us to hear.

Memory is overrated, your spirit collects the information and it reflects how you see the world. Knowing and understanding are not the same thing, with a spiritual epiphany you can better know about your universe even if you don't understand it.

yeah, I understand that now, after our conversation last night. thanks for clearing that up for me.

Originally Posted by Seeker

Thanks Omnius. One thing to consider, Satanism is not illegal, nor are most forms of deviant behaviour. I enjoy and celebrate deviance, it adds spice and excitement to life!

Now, that said, I still cannot in good concience allow postings advocating the use of illegal substances or the misuse of legal substances, especially by minors. If even one person is harmed, legal issues or not, I would carry that burden with me for many years.....

Now, let's get back on track, the documentary.....?

I feel that, if someone under 13 got the idea that it was cool they might just be that 1 in 500 that can't take it.

I have to admit though, the only under 13 year old that visits extended discussion that I've seen is Michael, and if he went that way it wouldn't be the worst thing.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

I feel that, if someone under 13 got the idea that it was cool they might just be that 1 in 500 that can't take it.

I have to admit though, the only under 13 year old that visits extended discussion that I've seen is Michael, and if he went that way it wouldn't be the worst thing.

You know I love you, right?

I was just poking fun.

What if somebody's kid reads about sex or alcohol then drinks alcohol or has sex and they or their girlfriend gets pregnant? What happens to DV then?

DV is legally safe (I think), but from an ethical point of view, we don't want to feel like we are encouraging that kind of thing.
Not that it's our fault exactly, but we'd be a major contributing factor in ruining his life.
IMHO.

Originally Posted by Placebo

DV is legally safe (I think), but from an ethical point of view, we don't want to feel like we are encouraging that kind of thing.
Not that it's our fault exactly, but we'd be a major contributing factor in ruining his life.
IMHO.

Then, just to understand your view, what do you think of the "HEY YOU DRUNK!!! POST HERE!!!" thread in Senseless Banter?

I was targetting mostly the 'getting a girl pregnant' part - I should have mentioned that I suppose.

As for the drunk thread, I have mixed feelings. I don't mind that people get a little enebriated and have fun letting go.
What I have a problem with is underage drinking (because things can REALLY get out of hand), and drinking+driving (for obvious reasons), etc.

Now, that thread isn't encouraging any of that. But it could be enticing to a kid.
The tricky bit here is that by saying 'Don't do underage drinking' or 'Dont drink and drive', like a ponce, you wouldn't be discouraging them anyway.

I just mean that people should think about the effects that threads might have on others in other situations.

A thread about how cool it is to have sex with a 14 year old, regardless of legality, would be an obvious no no for me.

Originally Posted by Placebo

A thread about how cool it is to have sex with a 14 year old, regardless of legality, would be an obvious no no for me.

Absolutely. There is a guaranteed victim when that situation ends up happening.

No one has anything substantive to add after watching this?

personally I think all substances can have negative effects on your whole being, spiritually speaking. that includes sugar

legally though, laws and drugs are confusing. alcohol is still the worst to me

Agreed.

Rule of thumb: Everything in moderation.

The link isn't working anymore. I tried to check it out.

I have, however, been exposed to the ecstasy community (a friend used to sell the shit). I've tried it 4 times, 2 of which it was laced with meth-amphetamine and 1 time it was laced with heroin. The other time I think it might have been strait MDMA, but I'm not sure. You can never be sure.

I disagree with ecstasy use. It has been proven to be neurotoxic, and is very addicting. My friend went through the whole rave thing and ended up in rehab. He loved ecstasy with a passion, and even though he quits he still admits it was and is one of his favorite highs. Personally I don't see it as terribly interesting. It is extremely fun but I don't find it to have any enlightening effects. Most people just do it to party, and then realize that they totally fucked up their brains.

My friend has some fucked up emotional issues because of his ecstasy abuse. I think MDMA is worth experimenting with once or twice, but any more is pushing your chances for brain damage an addiction. To anyone who loves rolling or plans to roll: BE CAREFUL. Check out Erowids MDMA Vault and learn about what your putting into your body, and always remember that most ecstasy pills are cut with all kinds of crap. On night I faced a pill cut with heroin and ate another half, and didn't learn until months later when some one did a pill test for them.

http://erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma.shtml

HERE Is the link to the documentary again...


The government is so stupid...as soon as they silence one account another will just put it back up... you can't stop public opinion

Not to mention this was on ABC which airs it's shows free last time I checked...

There was a recent bust of tons of beans not too long ago. They were found in computer monitors. Anyone hear about that?

Not too long before that, the biggest bust of beans ever in the U.S. was found. I think it was close to a billion of them.

That pisses me off.

It's exactly like the alcohol prohibition of the 1920's...You can't keep a dam from breaking by putting your hands over every massive crack it has...eventually it topples from the pressure

Doesn't anyone learn from history? I guess not...

Again...governments are only around to control your mind...to keep you from thinking for yourself

Once upon time you needed a prescription for alcohol..LOLZ


...Just imagine the ridiculous doctor's excuse for that prescription...

Doctor: "Stick out your tongue and say Ahhh...hmm I see... well... drink 4 shots of tequila, and call me in the morning..."

(Next day patient calls the doctor)

Patient: "Doctor, I have a pounding headache and I feel queezy..."

Doctor: "I see...well... 2 glasses of gin and tonic before bed should do the trick"