Thread: Ecstasy on the Rise...What's your take? :D

I didn't take anything afterwards, and no, it's not impossible to have a bad trip on anything that alters your brain chemistry. I suppose it depends on what your idea of a bad trip is.

I wasn't using pure MDMA anyway, it was that plus who knows what else in this particular dose. It only lasted maybe 5 or ten minutes, but I was freaking out, I thought everyone hated me, and I had this incredibly strong feeling that everything was meaningless, and that I had no home, and just a whole bunch of horrible things.

But then I snapped out of it and was chattering away and smiling, and loving everyone again. Heh.

If you take ecstasy and have a "bad trip" per se, I would in the future avoid all hallucigens. Really, you are obviously not made for this kind of experience.(A general statement) I've only met one person who I saw have a bad time and they were kind of simpleminded... not to be overtly rude..

Rainman sounds like you got a dose of something else, 5 - 10 minutes is not MDMA.

Because I'm not sure how anyone could actually have a bad trip.. even the worst time on E.. isn't that bad.. You'll probably more likely to be mad that what you got wasn't real MDMA or was short acting in bursts..

I fell in love with E. It was such a spiritual bonding experience. Then it turned on me. I wouldn't get the blissful feeling but instead scary energy rushes where I would feel like I was going to have a heart attack or faint. I stopped using it.

I think that it can be used responsibly once or a few times. But it is a false coin. The love you feel is really inside you and it should be teaching you to find the love inside yourself and to not depend on a synthetic chemical that alters your brain chemsitry.

A lot of people get hooked on it. But then it doesn't deliver the spiritual bliss anymore and it leaves them depressed with all their seratonin used up. It can take the brain a long time to recover, not to mention the liver and the kidneys and the nervous system. That is why E heads tend to have tight shoulders and a slight hunch in their back with their head hanging forward instead of on top of their shoulders.

But used very responsibly it can show you the possibilties of sensativity and positivity and bliss possible. So I don't thin that it should be illegal, but somehow controlled, because it is powerful. Maybe it could be by prescription?

Yes, you can feel that ecstasy naturally with meditation and breathing and yoga. And it is permanent! The love is inside you, the bliss is inside you, the drug is a finger pointing at the moon. Look at the moon, not the finger!

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

But used very responsibly it can show you the possibilties of sensativity and positivity and bliss possible. So I don't thin that it should be illegal, but somehow controlled, because it is powerful. Maybe it could be by prescription?

If it were prescription, it would be much much safer to use Maybe they would even sell like Molly, instead of Ex. In small amounts of course.

I've had exstacy before, but it was bunk shit. White naked lady. Had me shivering even though it was hot out. Probally cut with some bullshit. Most drugs these days are cut to hell anyway. All of it is garbage lol, unless you get lucky.

I had a friend though that used to drive out of town to get ex-pills, he had all kinds. Purple aliens and yellow pikachus and shit. I never had any of those before, i only had the bunk naked lady pill. Exstacy is fucking expensive. $15 to $25 for a hit.

Hey and since we're on this subject...for educational purposes only: I know MDMA/MDA is made from safrole, an oil found in certain plants ( sassafras root bark ). How much safrole does the root bark contain? And what would you do if you wanted to extract the safrole from the root bark? I imagine you have to be a damn good chemist to do this. Maybe steam distillation would work? I mean would a couple of grams of sassasfra root bark be enough to make say a hit of MDA/MDMA.

Again, this is for EDUCATIONAL purposes only. Sassafras root bark IS legal in the U.S.

I knew Cyclic was a drug-head

yea definitely not cool.

A lot of people get hooked on it. But then it doesn't deliver the spiritual bliss anymore and it leaves them depressed with all their seratonin used up.

Yea, guy from my neighborhood self-destructed on that ex. Armed Robbery, ran into someone's house and shot someone. I tell people you have to use these type of things in moderation, give your brain time to produce more seratonin. People that get addicted to ex, arn't addicted to the drug, the feeling they GET from the drug is what is addicting. Not being scared. You have to learn to overcome fear WITHOUT drugs. This is the most liberating.

To the OP, i've never gotten a "spiritual bliss" trip from ex. I have gotten bliss from Percocet. That's about it. Bliss is definitely something else.

Anyone remember Obama's answer on "did you inhale the marijuana", he like "yea, that was the POINT"

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

Anyone remember Obama's answer on "did you inhale the marijuana", he like "yea, that was the POINT"

Yes, I loved that answer Obama gave!

I never did Ecstasy pills, just powder. I had some really good shit where I was watching an eagle fly in the sky and I could see the thermals he was riding, it was like he was surfing. I was giggling and drooling.
Not being able to have a negative thought or feeling. I also had some stuff that was cut with speed and heroin. That is the thing with chemicals.
Now I stick with the good old fungi!!!

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

Hey and since we're on this subject...for educational purposes only: I know MDMA/MDA is made from safrole, an oil found in certain plants ( sassafras root bark ). How much safrole does the root bark contain? And what would you do if you wanted to extract the safrole from the root bark? I imagine you have to be a damn good chemist to do this. Maybe steam distillation would work? I mean would a couple of grams of sassasfra root bark be enough to make say a hit of MDA/MDMA.

Heh, I've been thinking the same thing myself, even saw some Sassafras seeds for sale on a reputable site. It is VERY easy to extract it, just look up guides online, it's not hard but to actually then SYNTHESISE the MDMA from the Safrole is quite difficult. It's not hard for someone who's not stupid, basically anyone above the intelligence of the average person could get it perfect after a few tried. But the equipment also costs about $800 US.

But I've definitely been contemplating trying it. Also another way to reduce possible harm is to buy testing kits. Go on pillreports.com and check to see which ones are good. The most recent ones in your area. Get those, test them to make sure they're the same (some dealers reproduce shit ones with the same logo after they get a good rep, so this is why you get them early). And then you can clean the pills with 100% isopropyl alcohol. Just chuck em in there, mix up, filter and the crystals will be in the filter coz they don't dissolve in isopropyl alcohol, all the other crap like binders and whatever else should be gone.
Goggle cleaning ecstasy and it should be on bluelight forums for a more complete, clear step by step process guide.

That's probably the easiest and cheapest way to get pure-ish MDMA.

Note: This is to reduce harm, I recommend not to take it anyway, buy if you're going to, this is the best way to minimise your chances of contaminated pills.

Just for your information, not that I am advocating making Ecstasy, it is more dangerous to make it than to buy it on the street. Unless you learn from a chemist who knows how to make it and you use a laboratory. There is an easy way to make it and a hard way. The easy way isn't very clean and is not the good stuff.

Also, the ingredients that you need are watched by the DEA so that if you order them or buy them the DEA will start watching you. Then you have to test out what you made, that is the most risky part. You know all those stories of scientists testing out what they made? Like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and the invisible man, and Albert Hoffman?

Yea I wouldn't recommend making it either. Especially something as shady as Ecstasy. Just find some Molly..

Naked ladies??

All white with a G on one side and a woman on the other? Hoes up, G's down?

They were bomb two years ago. If your a good chemist perhaps you should make it, otherwise I wouldn't suggest it..

Originally Posted by Motumz

Yea I wouldn't recommend making it either. Especially something as shady as Ecstasy. Just find some Molly..

Yeah, that's all well and good if you live in Amsterdam or California (I hate you if you do lol).

Also, I disagree that making MDMA is hard. there's literally step by step instructions on the internet. It's just the cost and time involved is probably not worth it. Unless you get a biological chemistry student to steal all the equipment and make it for you.
So yeah, probably better to meet some open minded bio-chemists. But it really isn't impossible if you're not a dimwit.

Seems like Aus is finally getting some good pure MDMA pills so I might have something more to contribute to this soon.

Well there's a very high demand for Extacy AND it's illegal. Off course alot of people are gunna make a serious buck out of that.
And to increase their profits theý're going to impurify Extacy tablets with Speed, MDA, Ratpoison, Scopolamine..etc

Without the proper information being spread about extacy I foresee alot of overdoses, serious dehydrations and hyperthermia cases. People better improve the drug education so the public is better informed of the risks.

Here in Holland we have drug testing labs where you can admit a variety of commonly used drugs and have them tested for purity and a chemical analysis of the contents. This without the risk of being prosecuted (otherwise people wouldn't dare test there drug there off course)

Those kinds of drug policies, rather than total prohibition, is what I hope to see more and more in the near future.

Originally Posted by SKA

Well there's a very high demand for Extacy AND it's illegal. Off course alot of people are gunna make a serious buck out of that.
And to increase their profits theý're going to impurify Extacy tablets with Speed, MDA, Ratpoison, Scopolamine..etc

Without the proper information being spread about extacy I foresee alot of overdoses, serious dehydrations and hyperthermia cases. People better improve the drug education so the public is better informed of the risks.

Here in Holland we have drug testing labs where you can admit a variety of commonly used drugs and have them tested for purity and a chemical analysis of the contents. This without the risk of being prosecuted (otherwise people wouldn't dare test there drug there off course)

Those kinds of drug policies, rather than total prohibition, is what I hope to see more and more in the near future.

Wow that is so awesome.
I think I remember reading that coz on the pill reports website, Netherlands actually have like 90% pure MDMA, or 70% MDMA 20% Amphetamine or something.
Every other country just has, MDMA and no actual knowledge of the purity.
How much does it cost to test pills like that? I'm guessing it's GC/MS?

Originally Posted by DeathCell

Naked ladies??

All white with a G on one side and a woman on the other? Hoes up, G's down?

They were bomb two years ago. If your a good chemist perhaps you should make it, otherwise I wouldn't suggest it..

Yes that is exactly it. I think Ex-makers are putting caffeine or something in ex pills now.

They say you can get high off of the safrole if you smoke enough of the sassafras root bark. I'm not sure how much, probably about 2 grams. I've read experience reports on the sassafras root bark.

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

Yes that is exactly it. I think Ex-makers are putting caffeine or something in ex pills now.

They say you can get high off of the safrole if you smoke enough of the sassafras root bark. I'm not sure how much, probably about 2 grams. I've read experience reports on the sassafras root bark.

It's also quite toxic I think.

They say thujone is toxic, the stuff in wormwood and mugwort. But i think stuff like this is only toxic at extremely high doses....as with anything

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

They say thujone is toxic, the stuff in wormwood and mugwort. But i think stuff like this is only toxic at extremely high doses....as with anything

Yeah that's true. I've drunk wormwood and mugwort heaps too.
Ok I just read wiki and it says carcinogenic for rats. But then a study in humans revealed it probably isn't.
Most likely a ploy by the government so they could help stop the horrible (sarcasm!) MDMA being manufactured.

tommo, have you had any effects from wormwood?

I actually have dried wormwood, I ordered online. Was thinking about making absinthe some day.

It's pretty hard to make Absinthe I think. Good luck with that lol
I have noticed effects but nothing really great.
I made some shitty Absinthe once when I was a novice.
I thought Absinthe was just wormwood soaked in alcohol.
I used methylated spirits (lol) and soaked wormwood in it for a few weeks.
Tasted so bad but it did the trick. The only thing I've noticed is that it's the same as being drunk but your head is much clearer.
I've smoked it too, just dried wormwood, and I've noticed a slight clear headedness, but I'm not sure if it's just placebo or not.
Same with wormwood tea.

Apparently it acts on the GABA receptors, so it's like Xanax/Valium but it has an accumulative effect. I'm not sure if this is true though, afaik it's not substantiated by significant evidence.

Wow. Being drunk with a clear head...i wonder what's that like lol

I'd like to try E sometime, but I'm a bit wary given how common problems are with bunk pills/pills cut with some nasty shit. And given that I live about 5 minutes outside of Camden, I imagine I'd have a he'll of a time getting clean pills.

Supernova - Go on pillreports.com and click on your area on the left. Use that as a guide to good pills. IT'S NOT 100% FOOL PROOF! Dealers sometimes press more than one type of the same logo pill so just use it as a guide.

Just took 2 tabs on Friday night. The cleanest roll ever! I fucking love ecstasy so much!

Best and funnest night, ever!

Lucky bastard....