Originally Posted by SolSkye
I'm not advocating it, so much as, saying that everyone has their skeletons that they hide from prying eyes. Some have bigger fish to fry than others, and some are just better at hiding them than others. Any trip to see the selection at an adult video store, or story from businessmen frequenting lady-boys in Taiwan will tell you-- People are sick. Some may come to grips with, and openly accept their skeletons which may manifest itself into their daily lives which naturally unsettles and scares people because it draws attention to their diversion from the pack signaling their discontent with the system, and forces the observer to reflect on and gauge their own skeletons.
If you are implying that schizophrenia is a willful choice or the result of choices that leads to a disrupted CNS, then you really must re-examine your knowledge of schizophrenia. Schizophrenic's do not make a willful choice to be sczhiophrenic, in fact, there is significant proof, via monozygotic studies, that it is hereditary.
While I agree that there are many people in the world that have mental disabilities, if not everybody, I do not think we should include disease such as schizophrenia, down syndrome, or muscular dystrophy.
Im sure you realize, the system is an entity unto itself and derives it's so-called sanity and solace in numbers. As numbers wane away from it's trough, the system deems those that do unworthy of the label 'sane', as they arbitrarily see fit. The term, 'sane', would imply the system being grounded in sanity to begin with. Do you really think our current materialistic beliefs, and totalitarian education system which force feeds it's version of reality on the modern world, is sane? That's a rhetorical question, by the way.
What are you debating here? That there is no such thing as sanity? Have you ever seen a person so lost in their introverted world that they try to eat their own feces? Even if they began as willful life choices, they have certainly lost the capability to deal with it on their own. And you imply that it is societies fault? Society has always had mental disabilities and always will. Blaming society will not help and is not practical by any means.
I'm not sure who you were quoting but I would have to say in response to that, who the hell does that person think they are to deem what is objectively boring and sophomoric?
If you would please consider what that comment was referring to, you would know that it is a fair thing to consider boring and sophomoric. Do you want to debate over whether or not opinions define good/bad? How about other vague terms that are completely aporetic? Aporetic debates are sophomoric. You may as well debate which is "bettter"; blue or red.
The system, through it's so-called practical solutions, inescapably creates more problems. It's a redundant, vicious, never-ending, and self-deprecating loop of-- Problem, Reaction, Solution. Mostly to problems that the-powers-that-be accidentally and arbitrarily created as they went along. Why can't people accept life for what it is, through the flawed lenses of our imperfect perceptions? There will always be problems, because problems exist inborn in us.
Yes, problems will always be evident. However, you seem to be implying that we should abolish psychiatry all together and "just live with it". However, facts are that it has helped an overwhelming amount of people. You refute these people and say that they are still not cured and just managed to "hide" the problems. This is how you have made your argument unfalsifiable and, thusly, cannot even prove you wrong. I have been rehabilitated by my scchizophrenia and you seem to imply that I still have that sickness dormant in my head. I can certainly tell you that the memories are still obviously there, but I behave nothing like I did 4 years ago.
Considering I'm as quixotic as they come, I find what the mainstream call practicality to be quite impractical. Practicality is in the eye of the beholder, is it not? Why are we continually forced to settle for second best, step on these pre-paved escalators through life in order to reach these consumeristic and parasitic plateaus and lifestyles decided by equally deluded individuals, or constantly worry about these meaningless monetary digits in order to put food on our plates? Do those finite luxuries really provide one with self understanding and relief, in the end? Hardly. It's just another form of escapism. If every sense of choice and freedom are predetermined and laid out for you, what scraps are left that can be called freedom without seeming to border on society's edge of insanity? Perhaps, that's why people run with their delusions. There is something empowering there that society stifles from childhood... the imagination.
Do you honestly believe there is no better system for us to create or follow? In the public eye when, 'good citizen', equates to, 'avid and blind follower of the system', that's where I adamantly and vehemently disagree. Naturally, questioning the system would cause fear in those that pathologically believe in it, because it forces a good look into the cracks of their blind servitude and their once 'flawless' beliefs.
What are you trying to get at here? Again debating that the system is to blame for the resulting mental incapabilities and sickness? Are you unwilling to point any blame to the individual? Schizophrenia is significant hereditary. Furthermore, a large majority of psychiatrists today will say that mental sickness is the result of an ecclectic approach and is the result of both nature and nurture. You seem to be implying both that society has molded sickness in the world and it cannot accept it. Yet again, your argument is unfalsifiable.
The reality is that people are responsible for some sicknesses and the environment is responsible for others. However, when the individual becomes sick, they rely on their society for help. You implied that trying to help these people only perpetuates the problem. This approach is simply wrong and an easy statistical search on those that have benefited from the health system will prove otherwise.
Practical subservient left-brained follower of a flawed system? Is that the best you can hope to achieve in life? I would hope not.
I'm proud to say I'm crazy in my own right.
Just because I admit to have being sick and having to ask for help does not mean that I am a subservient flawed person. That is possibly one of the most insulting things I have ever read. You think sick people should not ask for help when they are sick and just live with it? People need help and they ask for it.
This pseudo-intellectualism that fervently attacks "the system" is a gross tangent that utilizes a great deal of unfalsifiable methods and residually insults anyone who remotely disagress with the idea that they may want help from an external system of health care. Adhereing to a system of psychiatry does not make you any less a person or "subservient".
And yet you say, "Who the hell thinks they can judge what is boring and sophomoric" and then follow up with this spew.
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