Thread: Planet X Approaching 2012.

Originally Posted by L

Go and prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by L

...it can be seen in the sky (East coast).

Originally Posted by L

Nasa revealed its existence which is 3-4 times the mass of earth

...beyond 7 billion miles from the sun."

This in itself is proof.

An object only 3-4 (or even 4-8, according to the OP) times the mass of earth as far away as you claim being visible to the naked eye? Worse, during daylight according to those photos!

Let's put this in perspective, shall we?

Jupiter's Volume is 1321 that of Earth's, even though it is only about 318 times the mass of Earth. The low mass is due to its being mostly or entirely made out of gasses. The closest Jupiter gets to Earth is about 390 million miles. At such times, you can actually see it with your naked eye, though not with the sun glaring.

Even if planet X were composed of light gasses and with a similar density to Jupiter, it would be about 40 times smaller even at your largest estimate of 8 Earth Masses. At 7 billion miles from the sun, it would be about 18 times further away, making it about one 720th the apparent size of Jupiter at its closest Earth approach. It would take a damn powerful telescope to pick this up optically.

Can we move on yet?

Originally Posted by skysaw

This in itself is proof.

An object only 3-4 (or even 4-8, according to the OP) times the mass of earth as far away as you claim being visible to the naked eye? Worse, during daylight according to those photos!

Let's put this in perspective, shall we?

Jupiter's Volume is 1321 that of Earth's, even though it is only about 318 times the mass of Earth. The low mass is due to its being mostly or entirely made out of gasses. The closest Jupiter gets to Earth is about 390 million miles. At such times, you can actually see it with your naked eye, though not with the sun glaring.

Even if planet X were composed of light gasses and with a similar density to Jupiter, it would be about 40 times smaller even at your largest estimate of 8 Earth Masses. At 7 billion miles from the sun, it would be about 18 times further away, making it about one 720th the apparent size of Jupiter at its closest Earth approach. It would take a damn powerful telescope to pick this up optically.

Can we move on yet?

The telescope that picked the planet x up was Nasa Infrared space telescope.
Scientist calculated that the mass of the heat, that the planet produced is as powerful as a dwarf would be. Planet x Must be bigger in this case, than jupiter. Other wise its orbit wouldn't be so egg stretched.

The magnetic pulse of our planets could had been the trigger of planet x arrival. On the contrary, it could had been in our solar system for ages, since its orbit is 3600 years. Which means, somewhere in the B.C's our ancestors must have seen it. There are many recordings of it. Such as Mayans,the Bible etc...

And yes, the dwarf can have little planets the size of pluto, Neptune around it. I don't see any physical law forbiting it from forming that way.

The aspect that it is on our own orbit, is obvious due to our own sun. It is greater and bigger than the dwarf.

The problem arises, when we might occur between both the Sun and the Dwarf. In this case, since two powerful magnetic pulses go straight into us, will extend big catastrophes and maybe a shift in poles.

If that's true, then I hope that our own magetic field is tough enough to deflect all that radiation...Aurora Borealis will look NICE!

Originally Posted by L

The telescope that picked the planet x up was Nasa Infrared space telescope.
Scientist calculated that the mass of the heat, that the planet produced is as powerful as a dwarf would be. Planet x Must be bigger in this case, than jupiter. Other wise its orbit wouldn't be so egg stretched.

The magnetic pulse of our planets could had been the trigger of planet x arrival. On the contrary, it could had been in our solar system for ages, since its orbit is 3600 years. Which means, somewhere in the B.C's our ancestors must have seen it. There are many recordings of it. Such as Mayans,the Bible etc...

And yes, the dwarf can have little planets the size of pluto, Neptune around it. I don't see any physical law forbiting it from forming that way.

The aspect that it is on our own orbit, is obvious due to our own sun. It is greater and bigger than the dwarf.

The problem arises, when we might occur between both the Sun and the Dwarf. In this case, since two powerful magnetic pulses go straight into us, will extend big catastrophes and maybe a shift in poles.

Originally Posted by L

...a large outer solar system body of 4 to 8 Earth masses...

Originally Posted by L

Planet x Must be bigger in this case, than jupiter.

Do you mind telling us which of these two statements is the current theory? There is a whopping discrepancy you've got to explain there.

If Jupiter would get any bigger, it could had easely become a Dwarf, or a new Sun.

Did NASA Accidentally “Nuke” Jupiter?
Source : http://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html
Source : http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/JUPFULLx.htm
Source : http://www.xenophilia.com/blog/?p=4209

We tend to compare the dwarf with Jupiter. Which implies a huge question.
Can Jupiter become a Sun? there has been a Nuclear reaction in Jupiter in 2003.



What im getting to is, The possibility of Jupiter becoming a new born star is possible within the scientist. The black Spot in that picture, is the cause of the nulcear reaction.

Planet X if it holds any extraterrestrials, and if it were a battlefield, with nuclear power. Than that could have easily explain why it is a dwarf. Due to the nuclear reaction.

Do you mind telling us which of these two statements is the current theory? There is a whopping discrepancy you've got to explain there.

-If planet x would be the size of Jupiter, than i really wanna ask a question how did it become a dwarf.
-So the only explanation acceptable would be that its bigger than Jupiter. For planet x to become a dwarf. Due to its enormous size full of gazes.

SkySaw : Im reading the link you posted. It is a good source thank you.

Originally Posted by L

-So the only explanation acceptable would be that its bigger than Jupiter. For planet x to become a dwarf. Due to its enormous size full of gazes.

Ok, so now explain the discrepancy. Why the sudden change? Did it suddenly become hundreds of times more massive since your original post?

Umm... If Planet X was bigger than Jupiter and only have the mass of 4-8 Earths... it would be very loose cloud of gas. Nothing like Jupiter or Saturn. Please explain further on this little fact that is derived by basic maths.

If Jupiter would get any bigger, it could had easely become a Dwarf, or a new Sun.

yes, if it got about 13 times more massive.