Thread: Planet X Approaching 2012.

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Originally Posted by Identity X

Sharp.

L, I am 21 years old tomorrow, I am well educated, and I would consider myself sensible and sound of mind. You?

If you were that well educated, you wouldn't use a direct insult towards a community member. It just proves how immature you are.

Theres a good saying, : When you kill an ennemy make sure to dig a hole for your enemy, as well one for your self.

How about we get back to Planet X disccusion. We stepped out towards insults, which is totally immature. Shall we?

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

Why do I always have to think of the words "Lock thread, ban N00B" when I see this thread..?
It's obvious that this is no productive "debate".

So many good threads on dreamviews go to the shits because of flamers but then again alot don't.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

The mayan calender isn't perfect.

Oh, but it is!

You still didn't address Skysaw's post...

Originally Posted by Spartiate

You still didn't address Skysaw's post...

If there was ever a good time to post the elephant stomp picture...it'd be now.

Of course it's not perfect. yes i know you're being sarcastic Mark

I don't see any raw evidence here, I don't find those sites credible.

The point isn't to disprove you, you created the thread L, you need to back up what you said.

And make sure to address what everyone says, you poorly defend what you say by skipping some posts and replying to some.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

If there was ever a good time to post the elephant stomp picture...it'd be now.

It's been done already, I'll wait a bit for the second wave .

about that mayan calender...
Depends on whay you you compare it with, I guess.
It is perfect, from their perspective, and when compared to the sun and Moon. Our calender is a little bit different though. (0.000012234 days for example)

Great debates were started by our ancestors, and a dedicative answer emerged within that debate. We are debating on a factor that cannot be approved or dis-aproved. And yet it provokes questions.

Who ever i direct insulted, please dont take it as a direct insult. We are all here to debate. And draw conclusions. Who ever insulted me, please keep in mind, that it just provokes more anger. Im enjoying this thread, because it provokes our intellects to respond and defend the believes which we settled inside of us.

thumbs up!

I guess we can't expect a reply to my post then. I was hoping you'd at least take a stab at it.

We are debating on a factor that cannot be approved or dis-aproved

But it can be disproved.

Originally Posted by skysaw

I guess we can't expect a reply to my post then. I was hoping you'd at least take a stab at it.

Hey, don't get upset...Chaplain Tim was evasive whenever he couldn't answer something either.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Hey, don't get upset...Chaplain Tim was evasive whenever he couldn't answer something either.

Don't I know it! I posted my simple and respectful question to him twice, and he continued to answer other posts around mine.

Originally Posted by Pyrofan1

But it can be disproved.

If so, than go ahead and share us, some sources, i would have been grateful for that.

After all, who needs a treat like that to be real?

Skysaw :
Don't I know it! I posted my simple and respectful question to him twice, and he continued to answer other posts around mine.

I havent had a look at your question, i will look it up now.

Originally Posted by skysaw

This in itself is proof.

An object only 3-4 (or even 4-8, according to the OP) times the mass of earth as far away as you claim being visible to the naked eye? Worse, during daylight according to those photos!

Let's put this in perspective, shall we?

Jupiter's Volume is 1321 that of Earth's, even though it is only about 318 times the mass of Earth. The low mass is due to its being mostly or entirely made out of gasses. The closest Jupiter gets to Earth is about 390 million miles. At such times, you can actually see it with your naked eye, though not with the sun glaring.

Even if planet X were composed of light gasses and with a similar density to Jupiter, it would be about 40 times smaller even at your largest estimate of 8 Earth Masses. At 7 billion miles from the sun, it would be about 18 times further away, making it about one 720th the apparent size of Jupiter at its closest Earth approach. It would take a damn powerful telescope to pick this up optically.

Can we move on yet?

The telescope that picked the planet x up was Nasa Infrared space telescope.
Scientist calculated that the mass of the heat, that the planet produced is as powerful as a dwarf would be. Planet x Must be bigger in this case, than jupiter. Other wise its orbit wouldn't be so egg stretched.

The magnetic pulse of our planets could had been the trigger of planet x arrival. On the contrary, it could had been in our solar system for ages, since its orbit is 3600 years. Which means, somewhere in the B.C's our ancestors must have seen it. There are many recordings of it. Such as Mayans,the Bible etc...

And yes, the dwarf can have little planets the size of pluto, Neptune around it. I don't see any physical law forbiting it from forming that way.

The aspect that it is on our own orbit, is obvious due to our own sun. It is greater and bigger than the dwarf.

The problem arises, when we might occur between both the Sun and the Dwarf. In this case, since two powerful magnetic pulses go straight into us, will extend big catastrophes and maybe a shift in poles.

If so, than go ahead and share us, some sources

certainly,
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/index.html
this site is a bit dated, it talks about how planet X was suppose to pass through the inner solar system in 2003, but everything can still be applied to today.

If that's true, then I hope that our own magetic field is tough enough to deflect all that radiation...Aurora Borealis will look NICE!

Originally Posted by L

The telescope that picked the planet x up was Nasa Infrared space telescope.
Scientist calculated that the mass of the heat, that the planet produced is as powerful as a dwarf would be. Planet x Must be bigger in this case, than jupiter. Other wise its orbit wouldn't be so egg stretched.

The magnetic pulse of our planets could had been the trigger of planet x arrival. On the contrary, it could had been in our solar system for ages, since its orbit is 3600 years. Which means, somewhere in the B.C's our ancestors must have seen it. There are many recordings of it. Such as Mayans,the Bible etc...

And yes, the dwarf can have little planets the size of pluto, Neptune around it. I don't see any physical law forbiting it from forming that way.

The aspect that it is on our own orbit, is obvious due to our own sun. It is greater and bigger than the dwarf.

The problem arises, when we might occur between both the Sun and the Dwarf. In this case, since two powerful magnetic pulses go straight into us, will extend big catastrophes and maybe a shift in poles.

Originally Posted by L

...a large outer solar system body of 4 to 8 Earth masses...

Originally Posted by L

Planet x Must be bigger in this case, than jupiter.

Do you mind telling us which of these two statements is the current theory? There is a whopping discrepancy you've got to explain there.

If Jupiter would get any bigger, it could had easely become a Dwarf, or a new Sun.

Did NASA Accidentally “Nuke” Jupiter?
Source : http://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html
Source : http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/JUPFULLx.htm
Source : http://www.xenophilia.com/blog/?p=4209

We tend to compare the dwarf with Jupiter. Which implies a huge question.
Can Jupiter become a Sun? there has been a Nuclear reaction in Jupiter in 2003.



What im getting to is, The possibility of Jupiter becoming a new born star is possible within the scientist. The black Spot in that picture, is the cause of the nulcear reaction.

Planet X if it holds any extraterrestrials, and if it were a battlefield, with nuclear power. Than that could have easily explain why it is a dwarf. Due to the nuclear reaction.

Do you mind telling us which of these two statements is the current theory? There is a whopping discrepancy you've got to explain there.

-If planet x would be the size of Jupiter, than i really wanna ask a question how did it become a dwarf.
-So the only explanation acceptable would be that its bigger than Jupiter. For planet x to become a dwarf. Due to its enormous size full of gazes.

SkySaw : Im reading the link you posted. It is a good source thank you.

Originally Posted by L

-So the only explanation acceptable would be that its bigger than Jupiter. For planet x to become a dwarf. Due to its enormous size full of gazes.

Ok, so now explain the discrepancy. Why the sudden change? Did it suddenly become hundreds of times more massive since your original post?

Umm... If Planet X was bigger than Jupiter and only have the mass of 4-8 Earths... it would be very loose cloud of gas. Nothing like Jupiter or Saturn. Please explain further on this little fact that is derived by basic maths.

If Jupiter would get any bigger, it could had easely become a Dwarf, or a new Sun.

yes, if it got about 13 times more massive.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

The mayan calender isn't perfect. It would be stupid to kill yourself because you were impatient... Imagine The entire world evolves to the next level 1 day after I killed myself...That'd be..dumb.

Yeah, sorry. :/

I just grow tired of people saying stuff like "The world's ending!" and saying all the wrong dates(as far as we know).