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Last edited by Jeff777; 03-06-2008 at 05:06 AM.
Things are not as they seem
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He's baaaaack... |
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"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
Ben Stein is better then this |
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Some are born to sweet deleight
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 03-06-2008 at 05:11 AM.
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"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
Intelligent design is useful for explaining a concept we haven't fully understood yet. We try to simplify the creation of the universe by explaining it in terms we can comprehend, "somebody who can do anything made it". |
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The only reason one would deny intelligent design is they themselves decide to take the leap of lack-of-faith not to see it. Most scientists eventually humble themselves into the realization that this world is simply too mysterious and too paradoxical to be just an ongoing explainable accident. |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 03-06-2008 at 05:26 AM.
The Art of War <---> Videos
Remember: be open to anything, but question everything
"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
Intellegent design itself does not make me feel uncomfortable but i feel it is a proxy Issue merely to bring christianity into The classroom or i feel that is how it is being used by christians. |
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The one argument he put forth in this preview is the notion that some things appear to be made by an intelligent designer. This seems quite obviously flawed to me, because if we assume that the universe was created by an intelligent designer, then that means that we are by definition unable to observe anything which was NOT created by this designer. Since our notion of something 'seeming to be created by an intelligence' is clearly a relative one (you need to compare it to something which does NOT seem this way), then it is not applicable to our situation. You can't use a relative term to describe all of reality it is possible for us to experience. |
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I would hardly jump off the ledge and claim there's no evidence to support intelligent design. You see a difference between evolution and intelligent design. I don't see how that's possible. Evolution is the universe's way of expressing intelligent design. It is the universe manifesting something better, stronger, more intelligent. Everything is the universe manifest. There is no distinction between objects. Including you, who are essentially questioning your own intent by questioning all the intelligence that brought you into being. Jumping to conclusions doesn't equal fact. |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 03-06-2008 at 05:51 AM.
The Art of War <---> Videos
Remember: be open to anything, but question everything
"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
Then find me some. |
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Things are not as they seem
The proof is in the theories and laws scientists themselves create, find, and follow. An employee at McDonalds could never begin to understand the ultimate intent that brought us here. Only someone with intelligence. |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 03-06-2008 at 06:19 AM.
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"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
No. |
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Last edited by thegnome54; 03-06-2008 at 06:24 AM.
Something that promotes the human condition is hardly something I'd call religious... What's wrong with a model of reality that promotes self? |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 03-06-2008 at 06:29 AM.
The Art of War <---> Videos
Remember: be open to anything, but question everything
"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
I'm not really sure what part of my response you're responding to. |
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Last edited by thegnome54; 03-06-2008 at 06:28 AM.
Reserve judgement, regarding Ben Stein and the movie, until after you've viewed it. |
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Things are not as they seem
I don't follow linear thought processes well. I read the intent of what is written and respond. It flows much better than choppy text, which is sliced and diced and broken in thought. |
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The Art of War <---> Videos
Remember: be open to anything, but question everything
"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
I know the post is not directed at me but i will try my stab at it. How about it? |
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Last edited by dragonoverlord; 03-06-2008 at 06:57 AM.
Some are born to sweet deleight
Some are born to endless night
cdesign proponentsists |
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I don't think a 'God' did it, so much as, it was and continually is an ongoing process of intelligent intention. We are an obvious part of that process. Which is also undeniably intelligent. |
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The Art of War <---> Videos
Remember: be open to anything, but question everything
"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
Intellegent intention? The intellegent intention had to come from a being, a god if you like. If you dont beleive its gods intellegent intention shaping the universe then what in heavens name is it that is shaping the universe according to yoru beleif? |
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Last edited by dragonoverlord; 03-06-2008 at 08:25 AM.
Some are born to sweet deleight
Some are born to endless night
My intention for supporting intelligent design is for one to walk with acceptance, pride, faith, and belief in yourself, and your creation as the self-aware universe. You were spawned of the universe which somehow spawned itself. AIDS, starvation, deforestation, and all the other macro and microscopic problems of the world are just an equations way of attempting to balance itself out. Without the Ying, no Yang...and vice versa. Certainly, not a valid reason to deny intent. The darkness found without also resides within. We all have our skeletons we try and cope with and better ourselves from, just as the universe does. I can accept responsibility for all the ills of the world, because they are simply manifestations of the universe's perfecting it's own plight and imperfections. Just as the beholder themselves attempts to perfect their own plight and imperfections. |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 03-06-2008 at 01:57 PM.
The Art of War <---> Videos
Remember: be open to anything, but question everything
"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
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