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      Insect 'Spies' Fitted with Video Camera Implants

      Does This make anybody else uneasy, but me?
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      The bit about sharks was funny. Man, gotta be on the lookout now...


      Anyway, I think that's a cute idea, but I'm not the type to even think about the issue until there's any kind of indication that a. this actually works and b. there's a chance it will be used in my home.


      They should install something of the sort into my cat. Damn, I'd be in so much trouble then..

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      In china they have a similar program. They place electrodes into the brains of Pigoens and by stimulating certain areas of the brain they can control a pigoens movement as its in flight, which means they have a remote control pigoen.

      personally i dont like the idea, i love my pigoens!
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      Yes, but let's see if this actually works.

      (Or if they tell us about it working or not anyway)

      That's it, it makes me uneasy.

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      Bah, we're getting to that point in technology where I don't see how anyone can doubt things like this work. I'd bet any money they've got a bunch of other ideas that are seemingly more sci-fi that they've got going and we have no idea about.

      Theres no such thing as privacy anymore. Hear of the MRI-sized mind reading device created, in the UK I think? Its only a matter of time before things like that are portable and used daily be regular people.

      Privacy no longer exists, freedom no longer exists. These kind of things are just going to keep coming. This makes me very uneasy. I don't think people should have that kind of power.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ExoByte View Post


      Hear of the MRI-sized mind reading device created, in the UK I think? Its only a matter of time before things like that are portable and used daily be regular people.
      What? Link?

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      Click

      There are many more articles, but this one is straight and to the point. Video and all.
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      In any case, I don't see why regular folks like us should worry. I mean, who would want to spend time, money, and energy watching us brush our teeth and scratch our asses and sit at work and post journal entries on DV? I think people assume that they're much more important than they actually are.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      In any case, I don't see why regular folks like us should worry. I mean, who would want to spend time, money, and energy watching us brush our teeth and scratch our asses and sit at work and post journal entries on DV? I think people assume that they're much more important than they actually are.
      Exactly, this kind of stuff isn't meant to be used on the general public. Imagine the money and effort necessary to keep tabs on a country's whole poupulation, not to mention how little there is to gain from doing so.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spartiate View Post
      Exactly, this kind of stuff isn't meant to be used on the general public. Imagine the money and effort necessary to keep tabs on a country's whole poupulation, not to mention how little there is to gain from doing so.
      Heh, you'd be surprised. All it takes is a powerful enough computer with a large hard drive, and you can get enough space and computing power too keep a full length file on every person on the planet and still have space left over, with whats pocket change to the government. And a computer like that is relatively easily custom built on the public market.

      And keeping tabs on everyone would be useful, its already in effect. For example, the whole FBI wanting eye scans, finger prints and DNA samples of everyone.

      Again with the FBI, in that can use your cellphone to listen in on you even when its turned off. They used this technique to catch a lot of people in the Mafia.

      Not just that, but, in America at least, all these things about travel papers and National IDs, the whole terrorist watch list. Its easy to keep tabs on everyone. It'd be cheap, relatively effortless, and it'd have a huge benefit. In that it'd be easy to catch criminals, potential threats to society and the government, spies, etc.

      Its very 1984ish, but its also very realistic. Very scary too.
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      But there still has to be people to look over the millions of hours of recordings . I'm just trying to say that no one is watching you brush your teeth, or sleep, maybe change clothing though...

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      Oh I didn't mean watched by a persons physical eyes 24/7, but the point is the information would be all there if they need it. They could easily keep tabs on everyone and have all that information available with the click of a button. It'd still be being monitored, and you'd still need to make sure not to screw up. Any odd behavior could easily set off a red flag.

      Reminds me of the movie "Enemy of the State." Good movie.
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      I'm sure some people would find that kinky though.

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      Warrantless Wiretaps
      RealID
      Video cameras on city street corners
      Hypodermic chips

      All of these are ideas that, had someone brought them up ages ago, naysayers would shout "Pssh. Yeah right. They wouldn't do that to the general population."

      I'm not saying that they, at the drop of a dime, are going to start sending swarms of these things out to "watch the population brush their teeth," but it only takes the smallest bit of reason to harden the possibility that they could send them out at particular "places of interest" to survey.

      If not now. What about 10 years from now? It's only in looking at the possible uses for the technology that things become unsettling, not the presently broadcast uses.

      And no, actually, people don't actually have to sit around and watch the monitors anymore.
      That's automated now, too.
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      Very unsettling O, but as usual the regular response I would expect would be "It's for the people's protection, of course."
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      there seems to be no backlash against these crazy technological advances that we constantly hear about. you would imagine there would be revolutionists trying to prevent this kind of thing, maybe there is. it is certainly worrying, but i am not surprised to be honest.

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      Linky!
      It's interesting, but far from being useful - electrodes are bulky.

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      I don't know. I'm still not impressed. Btw, something like a video camera in the street doesn't exactly invade my privacy unless I want to shop lift.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Btw, something like a video camera in the street doesn't exactly invade my privacy unless I want to shop lift.
      Well, as someone who didn't grow up as an angel (), I suppose my perspective is just a little different. A lot of my earlier years (and some of my present) were spent roaming the streets with friends, doing plenty of things that - while victimless and/or non-violent - would get us, at the very least, harassed by the police. For some of us, in some of the areas we live, it's just a part of growing up. Because of things like that, I have a big problem with not being able to roam around my own town/city/block without having government issued video cameras in my face 24/7.
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      Next thing you know people will have these implants when they are feotuses sp? It will be a custom thing when you are born. The world seems to be getting mroe stupid by the day, where is the freedom? It's like the government are fascists.
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      I'm going to swat every fly i see from now on. holy shit.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ExoByte View Post
      Heh, you'd be surprised. All it takes is a powerful enough computer with a large hard drive, and you can get enough space and computing power too keep a full length file on every person on the planet and still have space left over, with whats pocket change to the government. And a computer like that is relatively easily custom built on the public market.

      And keeping tabs on everyone would be useful, its already in effect. For example, the whole FBI wanting eye scans, finger prints and DNA samples of everyone.

      Again with the FBI, in that can use your cellphone to listen in on you even when its turned off. They used this technique to catch a lot of people in the Mafia.

      Not just that, but, in America at least, all these things about travel papers and National IDs, the whole terrorist watch list. Its easy to keep tabs on everyone. It'd be cheap, relatively effortless, and it'd have a huge benefit. In that it'd be easy to catch criminals, potential threats to society and the government, spies, etc.

      Its very 1984ish, but its also very realistic. Very scary too.
      Why does all this sound like a preamble to a police state..

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      I'm going to swat every fly i see from now on. holy shit.
      What if they are alien flies?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Well, as someone who didn't grow up as an angel (), I suppose my perspective is just a little different. A lot of my earlier years (and some of my present) were spent roaming the streets with friends, doing plenty of things that - while victimless and/or non-violent - would get us, at the very least, harassed by the police. For some of us, in some of the areas we live, it's just a part of growing up. Because of things like that, I have a big problem with not being able to roam around my own town/city/block without having government issued video cameras in my face 24/7.


      Hehe! Yeah I guess I can see your POV now.

      Hmm now I'm curious about you, you naughty boy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Hmm now I'm curious about you, you naughty boy.
      Heheh. That's all classified, love. I could tell you, but not until you're uh...properly initiated into my inner-circle.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Does This make anybody else uneasy, but me?
      Oh of course not, its keeping Americans safe from the bad guys!






      I swat all bugs anyway so, they can spend their millions of dollars on fly camera's, I'll just crush their dreams with a fly swatter.
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