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      I also notice that while the co2 spikes at the end, the temp then begins to drop. also, farther back in the graph, the temp rises to higher than at the co2 spike even when the co2 is only half as high. I do think a lot of co2 in the atmosphere is bad for our health but the global warming thing...well, lets just say the evidence isnt as overwhelming as for evolution (which I believe in btw )
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      Quote Originally Posted by tkdyo View Post
      I also notice that while the co2 spikes at the end, the temp then begins to drop. also, farther back in the graph, the temp rises to higher than at the co2 spike even when the co2 is only half as high. I do think a lot of co2 in the atmosphere is bad for our health but the global warming thing...well, lets just say the evidence isnt as overwhelming as for evolution (which I believe in btw )
      Let's just not forget that CO2 is, if it is a cause of global warming, not the only one for sure. I guess that answers your questions. Unfortunately no DVer active nowadays seems to be an ambientalist to tell us what could have happened.
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      aye, but I belive that was the point of this thread in the first place, that co2 may not be the cause, I guess I worded my question a little badly, cause I know its happening, I just dont think co2 is a root cause of it
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      relative to the temperature of the earth when it was formed id say we've actually had a global cooling... Think about the big picture...
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      Quote Originally Posted by alfy984 View Post
      relative to the temperature of the earth when it was formed id say we've actually had a global cooling... Think about the big picture...
      Brilliant. How does that help us now?
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      we dont need help cause the earth is still cooling. One day a super volcano is gonna erupt and cover the earth is toxic gases then the earth will cool like a mofo sending us into an ice age.
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      Quote Originally Posted by alfy984 View Post
      we dont need help cause the earth is still cooling.
      If by "cooling" you mean "warming," then yes, yes it is cooling.

      Else your logic compares to walking 10 miles East, turning around, walking West, and claiming you're still heading East because it's "East relative to where you started."
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      Maybe space is just getting hotter and thats why the earth is getting hotter... check this out
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      Yeah. That must be it.
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      well, i heard a comparison once. it said that the earth is like a baby. and the earth has a fever, now with even the slightest fever a baby can die, which is all it take for the earth to end up like venus

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      maybe humans are the fever of the earth and eventually the earth will cure itself or maybe a meteor or super volcano will do the trick...
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      oh man. im so terrified of the yellowstone volcanoe

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      Quote Originally Posted by alfy984 View Post
      maybe humans are the fever of the earth and eventually the earth will cure itself or maybe a meteor or super volcano will do the trick...
      yea, we really are the plague of the earth honestly, i hate to think of us that way but we really are a terrible burden on this planet.

      The things that worry me about our impact on the earth are these:

      Nuclear weapons
      Deforestation
      Chemical dumping
      Oil spills
      Poaching
      Radioactive waste dumping
      General waste


      to me these 7 things are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

      times more important than buying a hybrid or a solar panel, or reducing any emissions whatsoever
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      thats why i say that aliens dont want to show us there technology hahahahah. wed just go around blowing stuff up like dumbasses

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      i found this...

      if this doesnt convince you global warming is blown way out of proportion i dunno what will


      The Real Inconvenient truth
      http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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      You guys bounded over the fact that Ozone, and Methane both contribute more than twice as much to the Greenhouse Effect than CO2.

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      Quote Originally Posted by spitfire riggz View Post
      thats why i say that aliens dont want to show us there technology hahahahah. wed just go around blowing stuff up like dumbasses
      exactly, If I was a being from say, 1000 light years away

      And I stumbled upon earth, and observed for a little while, this is what I would see:

      War
      Disease
      Corruption
      Lies
      Mass-murderers


      etc.


      I don't know about you but, If I was observing these things on earth as an alien, I would steer clear away from earth and totally avoid it.
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      EXACTLY. why would u let ppl like earthlings go around with dangerous things? we kant even get along with each other, how in the universe would we treat other beings?

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      One sign that we know there is intelligent life out there is that they have never tried to contact us....
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      haha. this isnt the right place to talk about u.f.os hahaha. im sorry for messin up ur thread, but i got one on aliens.

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      everyone knows that global warming is actually related to the decrease in pirates over 200 years, just check out this detailed graph



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      ahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!! lmao

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      ARR, its pirates after all, i knew it!
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      Here are the 4 major temperature metrics compared top to bottom, with the most recently released at the top:

      UK’s Hadley Climate Research Unit Temperature anomaly (HadCRUT) Dr. Phil Jones:
      Reference: above data is HadCRUT3 column 2 which can be found here
      description of the HadCRUT3 data file columns is here


      NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) Dr. James Hansen:
      Reference: GISS dataset temperature index data


      University of Alabama, Huntsville (UAH) Dr. John Christy:
      Reference: UAH lower troposphere data


      Remote Sensing Systems of Santa Rosa, CA (RSS):
      Reference: RSS data here (RSS Data Version 3.1)


      Here is a quick comparison and average of ∆T for all metrics shown above:

      Source: Global ∆T &#176;C
      HadCRUT
      - 0.595

      GISS - 0.750
      UAH - 0.588
      RSS - 0.629
      Average: - 0.6405&#176;C
      For all four metrics the global average ∆T for January 2007 to January 2008 is: - 0.6405&#176;C
      [SOURCE]


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