Thread: European Union/Globalization

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

There is the good and the bad. It'll remove what remains of racism so the next issue can be tackled: classism. On the other hand, globalization would mean more inter-racial humping, so that'll make it hard to find someone with a similar DNA structure to you when you need a transplant. Hopefully we'll be able to clone our own organs by then.

Thats your problem? I thought it would be more along the lines of abuse of power/pursuit of perfection that would drive us to being slaves and leading irrationally equal lives, losing all sense of individualism in man's quest for the perfect, harmonious paradise-society.

But that's just me.

You'll note that I only stated one argument for each side of the debate. That's a good point too. There is so much to take into consideration when discussing this topic.

Read 1984. Read up on George Bush. Read up on the EU. Comapre.

Rinse & repeat.

Originally Posted by Vance

Thats your problem? I thought it would be more along the lines of abuse of power/pursuit of perfection that would drive us to being slaves and leading irrationally equal lives, losing all sense of individualism in man's quest for the perfect, harmonious paradise-society.

But that's just me.

this is the main reason I am against it.

Originally Posted by tkdyo

this is the main reason I am against it.

me too, loss of freedom, loss of individualism, loss of humanity.

Humanity was not designed to get along in a harmonious global government.

Humanity is destined for conflict, and a global government is not only naive but unrealistic.

No.

Globalization will continue to evolve whether the majority wants it to or not (and by majority I mean average citizens). Those in control will push this agenda forward no matter what; there will always be independent states, however (there will never be a truly global government that rules every nation).

They will try to integrate the global government into as many nations as possible.

So it doesn't really matter if we are for or against it, although there will be certain times at which the tensions between the sovereignty of nations and global governmental control will reach a crisis point that results in small (or large) wars waged by their populations.

Originally Posted by Captain Sleepalot

Globalization will continue to evolve whether the majority wants it to or not (and by majority I mean average citizens). Those in control will push this agenda forward no matter what; there will always be independent states, however (there will never be a truly global government that rules every nation).

They will try to integrate the global government into as many nations as possible.

So it doesn't really matter if we are for or against it, although there will be certain times at which the tensions between the sovereignty of nations and global governmental control will reach a crisis point that results in small (or large) wars waged by their populations.

I would personally oversee the uprisings.

Originally Posted by guerilla

Humanity was not designed to get along in a harmonious global government.

Humanity is destined for conflict

Aren't you just a ray of sunshine.

Ultimately you can't stop globalisation. The EU was first, next the Asian Federation, then an American Union. Once Africa joins the party you've got a majority of the world working together as major trading partners. Countries that don't want to join the unions will be cut out of trade deals or embargoed until they have no choice but to submit and join, or suffer lower GDP and standards of living.

It's going to happen whether we like it or not. 100 years from now or 1000 years from now, it'll happen slowly and gradually creeping like a vine on society, slow enough that each step is barely noticed by the generation in power at the time. I don't see a need for a President of Earth until we are a multi-world civilization, then we can have colonial wars of independence all over again.