Thread: Nicola Tesla: The Missing Secrets

Originally Posted by Bonsay

Tesla was a human!
Why can't people be proud of their kind instead of hating "towel heads" (don't want to use worse names I've heard). It's ok to be a bit patriotic, but this really is retarded in the most basic sense of the word. Evolve a bit, will you?

Sorry for rant and hijacking the thread.

I totally agree.

"too bad he was a serb" "fucking serbs" ...what is wrong with you people?

lookup HAARP. it is based on his ideas. sattelites that can cause catastrophies.

Originally Posted by Bonsay

Tesla was a human!
Why can't people be proud of their kind instead of hating "towel heads" (don't want to use worse names I've heard). It's ok to be a bit patriotic, but this really is retarded in the most basic sense of the word. Evolve a bit, will you?

Sorry for rant and hijacking the thread.

wat....tesla wasnt a "towel head" he was a white european from an orthodox christian background not an arab muslim as the word towel head implies{i wish he was though).....(and serbia sucks, go Croatia!!!!!)

Originally Posted by ranma187

lookup HAARP. it is based on his ideas. sattelites that can cause catastrophies.

He knew that some of his inventions weren't ready for the world and kept them under wraps (but of course after he died they raided and confiscated everything of his) because the government didn't want to use them for energy but for defense and war and such. He didn't intend for it to be used that way...but that was the way the government was planning on taking it. Big surprise. If you watch those videos it talks about that a bit.

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

Tesla was a genius to bad he was a serb.

Damn man... intolerant much? Who cares what nationality he was? First, he was an earthling... Second, he was a humanitarian whose inventions touched and changed all of mankind for generations to come.

You'd better check that blind ignorance as it seems to have your mind closed in a box of limited thinking.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

He knew that some of his inventions weren't ready for the world and kept them under wraps (but of course after he died they raided and confiscated everything of his) because the government didn't want to use them for energy but for defense and war and such. He didn't intend for it to be used that way...but that was the way the government was planning on taking it. Big surprise. If you watch those videos it talks about that a bit.

Oh, and Nina I saw The Prestige today... quite an excellent film... I wasn't expecting that ending and Tesla to be so integral...

Yeah, Tesla is awesome, I learned about him quite a while ago. Its too bad there are so many scams and conspiracy theories on the web defaming his name. He was brilliant. He was a visionary, a modern day Da Vinci. Supposedly the government took his papers shortly after he died. The FBI file of Nikolai Tesla is floating around the internet too.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

I think that any further work being done based on Tesla's ideas and inventions is not known to the public. As the videos hinted, they believe that some countries have already made Tesla's "death ray" and other's have the capability to. Who can possibly know what the US government is working on right now.

Lol, seriously, who do you think is in the government? Just people like you and me who are too lazy also. It's not until all the oil is depleted, and when we are forced to find a new fuel, that we will look into free energy.

I first heard about Tesla in this game C&C, where you can build Tesla Coils to electrocute enemy troops, they were pretty awesome later I saw the movie the prestige which resulted in me looking him up on the net. And it's Teslas autobiography that motivated me into lucid dreaming again. I knew lucid dreaming was great fun, but it was until I read his autobiography I realized lucid dreaming is much more than that, its the best tool to learn anything. Anyway, Tesla was a real eye opener for me. Atleast now I know I'm not the only one on this world who thinks evolution of the entire human race is the primary purpose of my existance. Too bad not everyone thinks like this.

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

wat....tesla wasnt a "towel head" he was a white european from an orthodox christian background not an arab muslim as the word towel head implies{i wish he was though).....(and serbia sucks, go Croatia!!!!!)

I know. Sorry, that's because I just spill out my thoughts so they come out in a mess. It was supposed to be an example. You know, of racism.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Lol, seriously, who do you think is in the government? Just people like you and me who are too lazy also. It's not until all the oil is depleted, and when we are forced to find a new fuel, that we will look into free energy.

are so sure about that?

you really think no one is making any effort to look into free energy because everyone is that lazy and pathetic? o.O

we have already looked into free energy. it is rumored the government has free energy, waiting to be implemented as tools. its not that nobody is working on it, of course they are!!!

its that the oil company is so powerful, they will never allow free energy on the market unless they get a deal in it. the problem is, free energy will never yield the massive profits like oil - there is no deal to get into it. its profits are virtually zero compared to oil.

every decade we hear a story about a great person who made this great technology. All the way back to tesla. what happened to these people and why didn't any of them make great products? like cars that float, or run on water? as far back as the 80s? a lot of these great minds worked alone or had limited funding. they did not have the funding to implement any of their ideas on a grand scale that we the public would get to enjoy.

what happened? they were bought out

someone came to them say "ill give you this very large sum of money and your technology will be produced at large" it sounded like a good situation, and maybe they even anticipated that their new product would be out on the market soon for the world to enjoy. did anything happen? no, we know nothing happened right?

what happened was a large number of these amazing patents from various great minds throughout the decades were bought by oil and other world dominating companies. they then tuck these patents away in the closet. having given up their patents, the scientist can't do squat except start from scratch a whole new design. they're not magicians, that single patent might have been their life work. its not easy to come up with an entirely new idea that doesn't infringe on the original patent

any baby boomer can tell you all the happy promises they were told regarding future technology that never happened. its not that we were stupid and can't have this technology. its not that we were lazy and no one wanted to build this technology - you can't ignore BIG MONEY.

you need to understand that with free energy, the oil industry would FALL on its knees. it would lose its world dominating power - its MONEY. the economy won't crash. not at all. the economy will always move forward.

as for your understanding of the government. the united states government has many secret departments that have always been working on advanced technologies. they started out from my understanding as a result of the cold war, thus, having perceived that Russian spies would be in the US. these are not departments you can come knocking to. they find you. you don't find them. don't be so quick to assume that the government is lazy. when it comes to social issues, yes, but thats really our domain.

ps. the big money behind silencing these scientists is dead serious. seriously, there is evidence they have murdered great minds. I dont have any proof of this, just memories from my youth about hearing about so and so, their great discovery, and how they died mysteriously shortly after. its happened in the past, it'll happen again. big money will silence an amazing mind if he or she is a threat.

im not saying the government is our enemy. on the contrary, right now she's pretty pathetic, and relies on the money of big industry. and has thus subjected its governing to the wills of big industry in many occasions rather than the will of the people.

http://www.theorionproject.org

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtWPBiQqF2o

I can has free energy?

You are energy.

Originally Posted by Bonsay

Tesla was a human!
Why can't people be proud of their kind instead of hating "towel heads" (don't want to use worse names I've heard). It's ok to be a bit patriotic, but this really is retarded in the most basic sense of the word. Evolve a bit, will you?

Sorry for rant and hijacking the thread.

Relax dragonoverlord obviously just hates their soccer team and I did it for the LOLZ.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

Oh, and Nina I saw The Prestige today... quite an excellent film... I wasn't expecting that ending and Tesla to be so integral...

That was an awesome movie. Bowie makes a good tesla!

ah ha! they work for me now. This guy is amazing, how the heck did he get pushed back out of the limelight? This makes me proud to be studying electrical engineering!

Most of the outlandish stuff you hear about Tesla comes from bad biographers who got most of their information from show bills about his acts. In his time, Inventors were presented as magicians, and so thats what they made them sound like. In reality, Tesla was a brilliant man who did a lot of amazing things, and to me the really amazing but false things you hear about him undermine his true accomplishments.

I'm not sure why people claim that 'most of his patents never saw the light of day' and that they were stolen by the government. His papers were taken from the hotel that he lived in partly because with no family in this country, there was no one to collect them. As for his patents, I have his book that he wrote (the fantastic inventions of Nikola Tesla; modest, no?) and it is largely a collection of all of his patents.

What may be confusing you is the fact that he didn't actually patent many of his inventions, since he saw them as toys for his own enjoyment, such as fluourecent lights, the discovery of plasma, the predessesor of the electron microscope (carbon button lamp), etc. etc.

Most people latch on to some of his more outlandish ideas and tout them as having been repressed by the government or other shady illuminati-esque shadow men, but in reality they just aren't practical or feasible. Unlike what is portrayed in the prestige, you can't really just charge the ground with electricity. Tesla also described a train that would encircle the globe and would be supported by its own counter acting gravitational pull, but who would really build such a thing? Sure it would be essentially frictionless but who cares, its unwieldy as all hell.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Unlike what is portrayed in the prestige, you can't really just charge the ground with electricity. Tesla also described a train that would encircle the globe and would be supported by its own counter acting gravitational pull, but who would really build such a thing? Sure it would be essentially frictionless but who cares, its unwieldy as all hell.

That is untrue...he did light up a field with lightbulbs. It's not just in the Prestige, there's an image of it in one of those youtube videos. I have no idea how he did it though. And that train sounds awesome. =)

I need to read that book.

Aquanina it must be another supernatural conspiracy. Even if there is photographs of it.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Most of the outlandish stuff you hear about Tesla comes from bad biographers who got most of their information from show bills about his acts. In his time, Inventors were presented as magicians, and so thats what they made them sound like. In reality, Tesla was a brilliant man who did a lot of amazing things, and to me the really amazing but false things you hear about him undermine his true accomplishments.

I'm not sure why people claim that 'most of his patents never saw the light of day' and that they were stolen by the government. His papers were taken from the hotel that he lived in partly because with no family in this country, there was no one to collect them. As for his patents, I have his book that he wrote (the fantastic inventions of Nikola Tesla; modest, no?) and it is largely a collection of all of his patents.

What may be confusing you is the fact that he didn't actually patent many of his inventions, since he saw them as toys for his own enjoyment, such as fluourecent lights, the discovery of plasma, the predessesor of the electron microscope (carbon button lamp), etc. etc.

Most people latch on to some of his more outlandish ideas and tout them as having been repressed by the government or other shady illuminati-esque shadow men, but in reality they just aren't practical or feasible. Unlike what is portrayed in the prestige, you can't really just charge the ground with electricity. Tesla also described a train that would encircle the globe and would be supported by its own counter acting gravitational pull, but who would really build such a thing? Sure it would be essentially frictionless but who cares, its unwieldy as all hell.

Good to see Xaqaria has things well in hand here

Don't believe everything you read. There are a lot of conspiracy theories out there. They may be fun, but take them all with a grain of salt.

That said, can you recommend a good book or two on Tesla? I know you've been reading about him a lot, Nina. I researched him heavily a few years back, but came to the same conclusion as Xaqaria. If I'm missing something, (and it sounds like I am) please let me know. I love this stuff.

Don't believe everything you read. There are a lot of conspiracy theories out there.

Yeah but the conspiracy theories about Tesla are all mostly that he was less intelligent and achieved. When he was actually more intelligent and more achieved than the conspiracy theories credit him. So what is known cannot be eliminated no matter what conspiracy theories you may read that are floating around about him. We can point to inventions that he did develop and inventions that were destroyed. And that is part of history and telsas life.

I agree that he was a lot more brilliant than the history books give him credit for. I always thought most of his inventions were theoretical, or just used in his stage shows as toys and magic acts.

Sort of like Da Vinci. He sketched the helicopter in 1500. By the 1800s, there were toy helicopters that could fly based on the principles of helicopter flight. Today, the US army uses helicopters. This does not mean that Lockheed-Martin ever had any reason to erase Da Vinci from the history books to hide military secrets. Thats just not the way the world works.

It did kind of work that way. His inventions were real, and their potential was real, but the only way to make money from them was with parlor tricks because human beings weren't willing to accept such ideas. I'm sure da vinci could have built a helicopter if he carried with him that personality trait nikola tesla had that allowed him to see his ideas so vividly.

When the worlds major governments finally cooperate and piece Tesla's great ideas back together its almost certain that this is what they'll have blueprints and timings for: