What combination creates the most discriminated person?

[Sandform]

I'm trying to think of what is the most discriminated combination of person. I'm thinking... Black, teenage, gay, (female or male?), (now here's a country specific part) in the U.S. I would say Muslim/Atheist/witch/devil worshipper, (sadly yes, I think in the eyes of the public these four are almost equal lol) worker at an abortion clinic. I can't decide which is worse on gender. Is it worse to be a female or male, when coupled with homosexuality when thought of as discriminated against? Obviously women are more discriminated against than women, but he preference factor changes it?

[Half/Dreaming]

In present day America, a rich white male. No contest.

[kingofclutch]

In present day America, a rich white male. No contest. Haha, good one.

[Sandform]

In present day America, a rich white male. No contest. Jealousy does not a discrimination make... I should probably add Jews to the list...since just last year a Jew got jumped in public after he responded to "merry christmas" with "happy hainuka." The only person who came to his aid was a Muslim.

[Half/Dreaming]

Although the rich white male is in control right now, he is always wrong when it comes to civil liberty debates. Example. Do you think a white man could take a Harlem barber-shop to court for not being hired because of his color? Its the same deal with racial slurs. Black comedians say "cracker" all the time. The last time I heard a white comedian say "nigger", it was a media fiasco (Kramer from Sienfeld) If a black man says "BLACK POWER!!!" with his fist in the air, he is considered courageous. If a white man says "WHITE POWER" with his fist in the air, he is a racist. Whitey is always wrong.

[skysaw]

I'd say an interracial atheist lesbian couple attempting to adopt a white baby.

[Liquidnine]

Here in the UK.... Young Gay Arab Muslim Male Although the rich white male is in control right now, he is always wrong when it comes to civil liberty debates. Example. Do you think a white man could take a Harlem barber-shop to court for not being hired because of his color? Its the same deal with racial slurs. Black comedians say "cracker" all the time. The last time I heard a white comedian say "nigger", it was a media fiasco (Kramer from Sienfeld) If a black man says "BLACK POWER!!!" with his fist in the air, he is considered courageous. If a white man says "WHITE POWER" with his fist in the air, he is a racist. Whitey is always wrong. Lol if you were white why the hell would you want to work in some black ghetto barbershop? That Kramer thing....was he not angry and screaming it? I agree black comedians like Chris Rock use nigger alot. but white comedians use the word nigger too. Look up Doug Stanhope. I don't know about that black power thing being seen as courageous, we don't see that in the UK too much, can you give an example?

[Universal Mind]

George W. Bush. It is not possible to be more hated than that guy. You could blow up the entire eastern hemisphere and half of the western one and still not be more hated than George W. Bush. I have never seen it so politically correct and acceptable to hate a person, aside from Hitler. In second place would be Satan worshipping, child molesting terrorists.

[Original Poster]

Black females.

[Universal Mind]

Black females. I don't agree with that. There are a lot of black females who are considered heroes by the masses. Diana Ross, Donna Summer, Venus Williams, Oprah Winfrey, Halle Berry, Florence Griffith Joyner, lots of others. Things aren't like they used to be.

[Sandform]

[tehuti88]

What about somebody of Roma (Gypsy) descent? IMO they seem to be more discriminated against in the US than even blacks or other minorities. Even in popular media, it's still considered perfectly okay to stereotype and disparage them.

[Sandform]

I don't know if they count because no one even thinks about them...and you can't really tell them apart from normal people until they start doing rituals (people at hospitals absolutely hate them for their crazy practices, once the docters walked away and came back to a room full of lit candles wall to wall X.X)

[Original Poster]

And those women have some of the strongest psyches in their professions. It's not like a terrible thing, states of oppression give people strength, and from their economic oppression the strongest black americans are thriving. I just have to say though, and it might be racist, but no one deals with as much bullshit as a black female living in a black neighborhood.

[Sornaensis]

Does it matter? I'm aryan so I'm better than all of you!

[Sandform]

no one deals with as much bullshit as a black female living in a black neighborhood. I'll agree with you on that.

[Sandform]

Everythings gonna be all white Seis

[Sornaensis]

The Germans proofed it! Aryans are genetically superior! :O

[Oneironaut Zero]

Indians and/or Middle Easterners are probably the most fiercely discriminated against, today, as far as ethnicity goes - in America, at least. Although the rich white male is in control right now, he is always wrong when it comes to civil liberty debates. Though I don't necessarily disagree with that... Example. Do you think a white man could take a Harlem barber-shop to court for not being hired because of his color? Yes. I can't speculate on what the outcome would be, but yes. He could. Its the same deal with racial slurs. Black comedians say "cracker" all the time. The last time I heard a white comedian say "nigger", it was a media fiasco (Kramer from Sienfeld) If a black man says "BLACK POWER!!!" with his fist in the air, he is considered courageous. If a white man says "WHITE POWER" with his fist in the air, he is a racist. Whitey is always wrong. There is reasoning behind both of these points. Would you like me to explain them to you?

[Dreamworld]

The Germans proofed it! Aryans are genetically superior! :O Yea and they caused a war that killed 72 million people, 47 million being civilians. Oh yea they lost at the end.

[Sornaensis]

Aryan is a race that has little to do with the Nazi party. In Fact many of the Nazi party's leader weren't Aryan. Hitler being one of them.

[Sandform]

There is reasoning behind both of these points. Would you like me to explain them to you? I don't know oneironaut. The nigger thing yeah I can see that...but we can't call black people anything! I can't even call you a spook. (I think your black right? Fuck if I remember) Yet you can call me anything and everything under the sun in reference to white. Its like being black is such a bad thing that referring to a black person by his color at all is horrible! WTF? What do you think would happen if you said you were a proud black man? Nothing. No one would think anything of it. If I say I'm a proud white man, I'm suddenly in the klu klux klan. Need I say more?

[Dreamworld]

Aryan is a race that has little to do with the Nazi party. In Fact many of the Nazi party's leader weren't Aryan. Hitler being one of them. Even worse. They were manipulated to exterminate jews by a person who wasn't Aryan. They surely aren't the superior race. Every race has been through the same shit. (I'm saying this just in case you weren't kidding)

[Sornaensis]

Er, the Aryan race was hardly created by the Nazis... It dates back to Ancient India, dude. And I was kidding. Superiority is subjective.

[Oneironaut Zero]

I don't know oneironaut. The nigger thing yeah I can see that...but we can't call black people anything! I can't even call you a spook. (I think your black right? Fuck if I remember) Yet you can call me anything and everything under the sun in reference to white. Its like being black is such a bad thing that referring to a black person by his color at all is horrible! WTF? What do you think would happen if you said you were a proud black man? Nothing. No one would think anything of it. If I say I'm a proud white man, I'm suddenly in the klu klux klan. Need I say more? I don't really think the South Park sketch made your point very well. Not that you didn't have one. I just don't think it did. But, yes, there is definitely a stigma that still lingers, as far as racism is concerned - and rightfully so. If racism was completely erradicated, it would be different. Many people like to ignore that racism still exists, and just want the black community to just "forget about it." We (the nation) aren't at the point to where people can just say anything that want to a black person and not be suspected of being a white supremist. It would be great if it were like that, but it's not. Fundamentally, people have to understand that that is a very real truth to why derogatory words to blacks are still buzzwords. The difference between the concepts of a white person calling a black person a nigger and a black person calling a white person a cracker is that "nigger" is the equivalent of calling a person a worthless piece of shit. It is a word that carries with it connotations that you come from a line of thinking that promotes the hanging of blacks. That black people are, litterally, less than nothing. You can call someone a cock sucker, motherfucker, pansy, pussy, whatever, but none of those words carry with it the power that the word "nigger" does. "Cracker", on the other hand, is labelling someone as a supremist - basically comparing them to the type of people that did the whip-cracking. You're calling them egotistical. You're calling them ethnocentric. You're calling them anti-semetic, but the word doesn't even come close to rivalling the word "nigger", in context. Not every black person would have a problem with you saying you're a proud white man. Of course, there are many who would take the statement with a bit of , and I 'know it's not you're fault that making such a declaration might encite those kinds of of assumptions about you, but that's how it is. Imagine watching your mother go through an extremely abusive relationship. You stuck with it and watched it for years, and she got the shit beat out of her. Finally, she decided to let that drunkard man go, after he'd nearly killed her. Then, later on down the road, she begins dating a friend of his. You see many parallels between the two men, every single day. Even if the man is not the violent monster that his friend was, you'd be a machine to not be somewhat on guard, for your mother's sake, whenever you see those parallels. As far as just saying the word "black," it has nothing to do with the word, it's how you say it, and the context in which it's said. Many people use the word in a derogatory tone, even when they don't seem to realize that they are consciously doing it. Again, there is a stigma, sure. Not all of the protest is completely rational, but very little of it is without reason. /rant (That was really to both sandform and half/dreaming, actually. I know sandform did say he understood the nigger thing, but I just thought I'd clarify, for anyone that didn't.