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      Effeminate vs Homosexual

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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      He's gay. Lol. I heard it right away after the first word he left his mouth. To me it's always been a mystery how all gay people all over the world talk the same way. How is this possible? Also their bodylanguage is the exact same thing... it amazes me. Does anyone have an explanation for this?
      The man in the video is effeminate, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's gay; they're two distinct qualities that often but not always coincide. I know several men that exhibit only one and not the other--effeminate straight men and butch gay dudes. Effeminate affect is a fascinating phenomenon, moreso because it correlates only somewhat strongly with orientation.
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      Never heard of that term. So basicly, effeminate is another word for in the closet homesexual? (jk)

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      Perhaps after releasing the weight of one sun, others are found in the endless reflections.
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      effeminate is effectively a nice way of saying 'camp'. it doesn't necessarily mean gay though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by complete newb View Post
      effeminate is effectively a nice way of saying 'camp'.
      :S or it's a more accurate way of identifying what we're talking about without the implication that it's a show or an act. Using terms like 'camp' or 'fey' further confuses the matter because some people do exagerrate or impersonate effeminate traits to fit in certain social sets, such as the gay and 'metrosexual' party scene, whereas others just find it the most natural way to express themselves.
      If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama



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      i'm inclined to agree with taosaur- i have quite a few gay or bi friends (i myself am hetrosexual) and i've noticed that i do tend to act more effeminate (in speech and action) when around them. -just adapting to the current enviroment i suppose..

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      Quote Originally Posted by ClouD View Post
      Perhaps after releasing the weight of one sun, others are found in the endless reflections.
      Yes, a spoonful weighs a ton.

      But regarding effeminate affect, I suspect one reason it's so much more common in gay men is that it's actively suppressed in straight men in our misogynistic culture.
      If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama



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      Quote Originally Posted by Taosaur View Post
      Yes, a spoonful weighs a ton.

      But regarding effeminate affect, I suspect one reason it's so much more common in gay men is that it's actively suppressed in straight men in our misogynistic culture.
      Thus that man in the video is probably gay.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Taosaur View Post
      Yes, a spoonful weighs a ton.

      But regarding effeminate affect, I suspect one reason it's so much more common in gay men is that it's actively suppressed in straight men in our misogynistic culture.
      Once you have known the support of a buddha, there is no greater.
      In this example, once the support is lost there is no other that can hold.

      Applied vice versa - perhaps that becoming so open suddenly, withdrawing the 'greatest' inhibition, can have the effect of not closing floodgates of eccentric expression.
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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