Thread: Discuss your thoughts without arguing.

I smoked weed during work break.

on second thought...



Thata way!!

Sadly I agree with Korittke. There is no point in a discussion without asking questions about someone beliefs or having them define terms for your understanding. I don't argue to prove I'm smart, I do it to increase my perspective on the world and really work out for myself what it is I think about things. There are plenty of people on DV that have it all figured out and are just meandering around putting people down for not being as smart as them, but just because a few do that does not mean that a discussion without question of one's personal beliefs serves any purpose whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

Sadly I agree with Korittke.

Haha.

Originally Posted by Korittke

Haha.

I'm sorry...when did this become a contest?

Originally Posted by Fableflame

I'm sorry...when did this become a contest?

I think he was referring to the "sadly" part.

lolz

Nuke the gay baby Tibetans in the name of meat eating Jesus Mohammed, cracker.

wtf?

Exactly

Let's discuss without discussion!

It's almost 2am and I still have at least 2 hours of work to do, yay.

Post count +1, this thread is awesome.

Some thoughts of mine, musings if you will:
I believe in the merits of debate and discourse. I believe that about half the time when posters resort to name calling, and general dickery, it is totally called for. I like it when people are politically as incorrect as possible, even if they don't mean to be.

Spoiler for Off topic, could be construed as negative:

Trying to police a thread as the op is is retarded, and is asking for people to shit on it. This thread is meant to be the equivalent of an 'intellectual' circle jerk, which is also retarded, and belongs in senseless banter.

Well, I've completed 2/5 final exams, and I find it very hard to just sit down and study, because my NHL 07 game for PSP is distracting me. I can't wait for summer. I hope to get a job at Safeway. Wow. My dream recall is abandoning me, i want more lucidity, and I'm going to a Hedley concert on Tuesday, July 8, at the Victoria Curling Club. I mention it every day, and I am very excited. It's my first concert. I love tennis, and I hate everyone who says it's a lame-ass sport for wimps. Well, screw them, I'll play whatever damn sport I want to, and I love it. I'm going to a philosophy club at a cafe on July 2.

Originally Posted by heumy

Well, I've completed 2/5 final exams, and I find it very hard to just sit down and study, because my NHL 07 game for PSP is distracting me. I can't wait for summer. I hope to get a job at Safeway. Wow. My dream recall is abandoning me, i want more lucidity, and I'm going to a Hedley concert on Tuesday, July 8, at the Victoria Curling Club. I mention it every day, and I am very excited. It's my first concert. I love tennis, and I hate everyone who says it's a lame-ass sport for wimps. Well, screw them, I'll play whatever damn sport I want to, and I love it. I'm going to a philosophy club at a cafe on July 2.

Awesome. Sounds like you have an interesting life. More interesting than mine. Good luck with your exams. Let me know how the concert goes. I haven't been to one for ages. Just no good live bands around my area or I can't find them. I've always had a soft spot for tennis and golf I don't think they are wimpy sports. By the way I am especially interested in hearing about your experiences in your philosophy club.

My dream recall seems to remain around average if I'm not paying attention. If I am it doubles in quality. I don't know how far I can push it my energy and most of my attention is always used up with other things.

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Originally Posted by People who could not respect the thread

MrBeelzy
Omnius Deus
Korittke (again)

Guidelines have been updated.

This is the article I was talking about that recently got my attention. The reason why it got my attention was because of the connection to sacred geometry in the crop circles I have seen which seemed to be created by these things. The interesting thing is how the energy comes from and how it manifests. Here is a small intro except of the article to introduce the subject. I do not want to type it all out at once without involving my DV friends.

-By John Pickering and Katie hall.

Across the world people are photographing something strange. Something that is happening at the speed of light, something which, even as you read these words may be happening right next to you. This is the phenomenon known as 'orbs'.

The fact that hundreds, if not thousands, of people have photographed orbs is for many the evidence that another reality is impinging on our own. And although you may not be able to see it at first, you may certainly be able to photograph it, as we see others have done.

Over the past few years there has been a veritable upsurge of interest in orbs. They have been repeatable photographed by paranormal investigators and psychics as well as by hundreds pf ordinary unbiased people everywhere.
Orbs have even obligingly appeared for TV cameras of popular "ghost hunting" programs.

Today you only have to key in the word 'orb' in google and you'll find a plenthora of websites on the subject. There are books about orbs. conferences about orbs- and lost of theories about orbs.

Uninformed sceptics are usually quick to write them off as dust, moisture or digital anomalies. But those who are actually photographing and researching this subject see other possibilities. Plasma concentrations-spirit manifestations-telluric energies, faeries, divas, and even alien entities!

What are orbs?

'Orbo-graphically' speaking, over the past few years a new world of 'orbology' has muchroomed into being! They have even filtered down into mainstream media.-Just take notice of all the orb-like images now appearing on adverts and in films. There us little doubt that a mysterious world wide photographable phenomenon is taking place but the question remains: What exactly are orbs?

Originally Posted by Fableflame

I agree. I think this thread was a great idea. I'm just not sure how many people can post here and not argue with eachother.

2nd'd

orbs are not ONLY a photographic phenomenon. people have seen orbs with their own physical eyes, whirling or zooming about. when orbs are seen there is some paranormal experience involved, be it aliens or ghosts or angels or whatever. orbs seem ever present.

but orbs are also a huge photographic phenomenon. im not entirely convinced the orbs being seen by people in their paranormal experiences are the same as the orbs being photographed. a lot of the orbs in my opinion that are being photographed just look like dust or smudges.

A good 18 years ago, I was watching a program about ghosts. and I guess the term orbs wasn't around yet. instead the program used the term 'white lights' and claimed, that these 'white lights' were a common experience in ghost phenomenon. I was just a kid then but I remembered it because it was true to my experience that I had, BEFORE watching the program

the first time I saw a ghost, it was floating down in my hallway. I quickly turn around in disbelief and trying to pretend I didnt just see what I did (I was flipping out). when I turned around, I was facing the living room. and all along the living wall were these white round lights. and they were just zipping and zooming along the wall. when I was little I described them as flash lights. like there were 20 flash lights on, and zipping from side to side.

it wasn't frightening. it was more like a wtf moment. I remember standing there forever watching these round lights along the wall. my sister was with me. and I kept waiting for her to SEE them and be shocked like me. but she went on with business as usual and it was clear she didn't see the white lights.

I found out later that although my experience was visual, my sister had an auditory experience - she heard something coming from where I saw the ghost

I don't know what could explain the white lights. I did not see 'orbs' floating around. They were like flat flash lights, only along the wall. But there was nothing behind me or outside the window that could have caused it. We lived in a dead end at the edge of a tiny forest. there was no car traffic outside for one.

I heard about the white light experience again in the early 90s when the UFO and alien phenomenon boomed again. I remember in story one lady saw the white lights like I saw them. flat in appearance and zipping all along the walls. except in her experience she thought it was being created by some alien craft outside her bedroom. she did see an alien in her experience, but her alien was also ghost like - walking through walls.

thing was, she was awoken from her sleep - which is questionable because of sleep paralysis. my experience on the other hand, happened when I opened the freezer to grab ice for my soda!

I don't know if the white lights experience is something supernatural, or some sort of stimuli response.

Besides the flat white lights zipping along the walls - people have also seen three dimensional orbs. Some people thought of their 3d orbs floating and bobbing about as spirits. Others thought of them as miniature UFOs, or even tiny alien scouting devices. More recently, some think these 3d orbs as a natural phenomenon, like the northern lights or a desert mirage. Of course there is also the matter of altered states of consciousness.

Who's to say what orbs are? Who can say all the orbs being experienced are even the same type of phenomenon? I'm not convinced they are.

Shit in a tube, the full-fledged 3D experience.

Juroara thanks for sharing that. Look forward to getting back to you next time I'm on here.

Senseless.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

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Guidelines have been updated.

I want Anarchy! Why should the people obey your absolute rule!? I call for a constitution for this thread. Which can be voted for.

1. Freedom of speech.

Who favors for the constitution?

*Only positive discussion and no insulting. No swearing.
*No asking questions about the persons personal beliefs.
*No ridicule of anyone.
*No skepticism of anything
*No disagreeing.
*No correcting spelling of other people.

Hmm.. Don't those rules apply to totalitarianism?

I favor Pie.

Originally Posted by Juroara

orbs are not ONLY a photographic phenomenon. people have seen orbs with their own physical eyes, whirling or zooming about. when orbs are seen there is some paranormal experience involved, be it aliens or ghosts or angels or whatever. orbs seem ever present.

Which leads me to the next bit of the article. In the article it states orbs have being around before photography existed. They are usually but not always invisible unless photographed. Some skeptics conclude it is an entirely digital phenomenon. The idea of a world wide breakout of the same digital processing malfunction across every make of camera, causing the same effects over a variety of conditions, would seem to be a lot less plausible than the more realistic view that orbs are a real phenomena worth investigating.

In 1566 a woodcut of mysterious spheres over base in Switzerland show the flying luminosity taken in the zoological gardens.

Originally Posted by Juroara

but orbs are also a huge photographic phenomenon. im not entirely convinced the orbs being seen by people in their paranormal experiences are the same as the orbs being photographed. a lot of the orbs in my opinion that are being photographed just look like dust or smudges.

A lot of the photographs I have seen, and particularly the ones in this article. They appear behind and in front of objects and unmistakable consistent round outlines of luminosity, varies sizes resembling a pattern of spirit photography. The consistent nature of the phenomenon makes it definitely something existent rather than unexplainable camera malfunctions.

Originally Posted by Juroara

the first time I saw a ghost, it was floating down in my hallway. I quickly turn around in disbelief and trying to pretend I didnt just see what I did (I was flipping out). when I turned around, I was facing the living room. and all along the living wall were these white round lights. and they were just zipping and zooming along the wall. when I was little I described them as flash lights. like there were 20 flash lights on, and zipping from side to side.

When I was little I use to see little tiny lights zipping around my room constantly before bed. When I called my parents in to see them excited they said they can not see anything and to go to bed. Yet There they were flying around them. I called them Faires.

Originally Posted by Juroara

it wasn't frightening. it was more like a wtf moment. I remember standing there forever watching these round lights along the wall. my sister was with me. and I kept waiting for her to SEE them and be shocked like me. but she went on with business as usual and it was clear she didn't see the white lights.

Same in my experience. My parents could not see them.

Originally Posted by Juroara

Besides the flat white lights zipping along the walls - people have also seen three dimensional orbs. Some people thought of their 3d orbs floating and bobbing about as spirits. Others thought of them as miniature UFOs, or even tiny alien scouting devices. More recently, some think these 3d orbs as a natural phenomenon, like the northern lights or a desert mirage. Of course there is also the matter of altered states of consciousness.

Who's to say what orbs are? Who can say all the orbs being experienced are even the same type of phenomenon? I'm not convinced they are.

In the article it states animals react to them. They have being observed making crop circles.

Although video footage of orbs tends to blow the dust explanation into nonexistence, especially as scientist have recently clocked orbs moving over 200mph Across a room. Dust certainly doesn't move that fast in our house.