Thread: I'm not ashamed to admit I hate feminists.

I hate feminists.

And not the awesome ones back in the twenties who honestly were doing the right thing- those flapper chicks were hot! Nowadays I don't hate the regular feminists who think they deserve equal opportunity. That's completely fair and anybody who says otherwise is just stupid as hell.

No, no no. I hate radical feminists.

The ones who march day and night. The ones who hate me just because I happen to have balls and not ovaries. Y'see, it's one thing to be equal. I think we're there right now, as a matter of fact. But it's as if they're trying to actually consciously trying to show how much better they are then me. They aren't. And I'm not better then them accept for the cold, hard, fact that they're fucking stupid and I'm not.

I may be a lot of things, like a jackass, an asshole, and a jerk, but I am not a chauvinist. I hate them too. If they want to get anywhere in the world they should stop dividing. Dividing people into black and white started the American Civil War. Dividing people into 'Jews' and the rest of the world started WWII. And now, dividing people into women and men could start another.

Abortion is a touchy issue. Personally I'm against it, but not for religious reasons. I'm not the least bit religious, (even though these particular views would fit snuggly on an Alabama fundamentalist.) but it's stupid. Once you have a child growing inside of you it isn't about your body anymore. It's the baby's body, - and don't bullshit me with, it isn't human yet! No, it's not. But it will be so quit being stupid.- the fathers, and yes, yours too. Live up to your own stupidity. Getting an abortion is just turning your back on responsibilities. The only time an abortion is right is when you're raped or if you can't support the baby to the point that it will die.

There's other stuff I could go into, like how women aren't in the draft even though it's been proven that they can do great. I don't see any protests about that, mein friends.

In the long run we need to look past things like race, religion, and gender and unite under one banner: Human.

Originally Posted by Good as Gold

stop dividing. Dividing people into black and white started the American Civil War. Dividing people into 'Jews' and the rest of the world started WWII. And now, dividing people into women and men could start another.

This is wrong. The Civil War was started due to discrimination, prejudice and unequal rights, not due to recognizing the fact that people have different racial traits based on their genealogical history. World War II was started due to similar reasons and on top of that eugenics, collectivism and fascism and not due to recognizing the fact that some people self-identify as Jews. Dividing people into groups is a minor factor and not in any way supportive of these issues. Anytime you classify someone as "black" or "Hispanic" or "stupid" or "Christian" you have effectively put that person into a group with all the other persons that you would apply that label to.

What you said didn't make any sense. If we didn't divide people into women and men, I'd kill myself because I'm straight. Any label that applies to more than one persons puts all labeled persons into a separate group under that label.

No, it's not. But it will be so quit being stupid

(that's soap)

In the long run we need to look past things like race, religion, and gender and unite under one banner: Human.

Wrong. I won't unite with crazy fascists, terrorists, Islamists, evangelicals and other nutjobs. If you wanna do that, go ahead, but don't complain to me if you end up upside down with a fork up your ass. The very last thing I'll do is unite with religion. Religion is a choice, gender and race you are born with. The three shouldn't ever be listed as if they're the same.

Why unite, what's the point? We're different. Talk about it, don't ignore it and pretend we're all the same when we're obviously not.

Firstly, feminism is a good movement. Getting women equal to men is a good thing, unless you think women are inferior to men, which I don't.

Anyway, you analysis of the America Civil war is weak, firstly getting rid off slavery started it. See blacks being slaves is not ethically right, so a war to destroy slavery is ethically good. Hitler was a crazy racist, and no it was not the imaginary divide between Jews and others that caused it, it was Hitler and the bunch of thugs called neo nazis. Lastly, feminist do not want to divide us up, instead they want to make us equal.

Abortion is supported by most doctors, and scientifically their is no evidence that a feutus is alive or even feels pain or thinks. The issue of responcibillity aside, the world population is too big and having more unwanted children will not help.

Women are paid less than men for the same work. They have their rights to control their own body taken away like abortion issue. Lastly, they have to live in a male dominated world with idiots like you who mouth of against progress. If it wasen't for feminism, women would be unable to vote or even work in a male dominated area.

Originally Posted by wendylove

Firstly, feminism is a good movement. Getting women equal to men is a good thing, unless you think women are inferior to men, which I don't.

Anyway, you analysis of the America Civil war is weak, firstly getting rid off slavery started it. See blacks being slaves is not ethically right, so a war to destroy slavery is ethically good. Hitler was a crazy racist, and no it was not the imaginary divide between Jews and others that caused it, it was Hitler and the bunch of thugs called neo nazis. Lastly, feminist do not want to divide us up, instead they want to make us equal.

Abortion is supported by most doctors, and scientifically their is no evidence that a feutus is alive or even feels pain or thinks. The issue of responcibillity aside, the world population is too big and having more unwanted children will not help.

Women are paid less than men for the same work. They have their rights to control their own body taken away like abortion issue. Lastly, they have to live in a male dominated world with idiots like you who mouth of against progress. If it wasen't for feminism, women would be unable to vote or even work in a male dominated area.

Please read what I said, first, dumbass. I said I wasn't against equality. I think that's fair! Alot of them, however, are trying to become even better well off- eg., radical feminists.

As far as the Civil War thing, I was simply generalizing what the conflict about. I couldn't possibly list all the reasons, but one of the big ones was slavery- black only, if I recall correctly. They were thought of as unhuman and not worthy of life.

Also, neo-nazis? Err, no, that was after the real nazis- Hence NEO (new) NAZIS.

Originally Posted by Good as Gold

As far as the Civil War thing, I was simply generalizing what the conflict about. I couldn't possibly list all the reasons, but one of the big ones was slavery- black only, if I recall correctly. They were thought of as unhuman and not worthy of life.

So? The reason they were enslaved was not because they were black but because people thought that different races had any relevance apart from being of a different race. Blacks are still blacks today, just not enslaved. You said that dividing people into groups caused wars, and that's flat out false.

Meh, I disagree with the OP, I do however believe some take it TOO far, if your going to cause public disturbances and stuff, its kind of going against your cause ya know?

but on your abortion stance, I have no comment because im for it, but i respect your views, also you stated that men and women are equal right now, i beg to differ, I totally disagree with that statement, things are not equal.

Women are still literally laughed at when they need to get a car serviced, men assume women know nothing of cars or mechanics, and men always tend to treat women like second class citizens. Not only that but men get paid more, sadly still.

I think its very sexist to say we are equal, dress as a woman one day and live ONE day as a woman, and come back to me and tell me if were equal.


I also agree with wendy, the feminist movement is a great thing, it should of started alot earlier in my opinion but whats done is done, the movement seems to have slowed down over the past decade or so or its just my perception of that, but they need to step things up and ensure women get EQUAL PAY!!!!

Society as a whole needs to grow the hell up and learn to treat all women with respect and dignity and stop staring at their damn chest when speaking to them, they have feelings and they aren't just eye-candy guys!

lately i've just had it with men, i might be a male, but i sure as hell don't feel or act or think like one, it seems to me most men just want to dominate and own the female sex, like they are the gate keepers or some crap, well I say NO, to that masculinity crap.

Femininity should dominate the world, not masculinity, masculinity has brought nothing but conflict and war and greed and power, why not give us feminine's a chance to rule with femininity?


All men have created is weapons and wars and money, which in turn bring death and greed and corruption, yay masculinity

Originally Posted by guerilla

Femininity should dominate the world, not masculinity, masculinity has brought nothing but conflict and war and greed and power, why not give us feminine's a chance to rule with femininity?

All men have created is weapons and wars and money, which in turn bring death and greed and corruption, yay masculinity

Men evolved as the dominant sex. There's no discussion here. It's just a fact of life. And even though a shallow form of female pseudo-dominance can be made out today, there's no contest - think science, think philosophy, think information management, think media, think internet, think the richest people in the world are 80-85% male. Men have a natural instinct to dominate society, partly in ways that aren't naked to the eye. It's not that women don't get opportunity to compete in relevant sectors - they just don't. Because they're not dominant and they never will be.

Compare:

Oprah - Letterman
Beyonce - Bono
Rice - Bush

In other news, men have created the greatest inventions, made the greatest discoveries, spearheaded the greatest movements, fought the most important wars and produced the greatest works of art. Your view is biased. Meanwhile, women have mostly been involved in feminism. Wars and progress stem from the same root - the dominant male desire to lead and influence society and fight for a goal with relentless determination. If all politicians were female, the earth would literally stop turning. Like literally come to halt and just not turn anymore.

Originally Posted by Good as Gold

and don't bullshit me with, it isn't human yet! No, it's not. But it will be so quit being stupid.

It will not be if it is aborted. My baby with Britney Spears will be human too, but not if she keeps ignoring me.

Originally Posted by Good as Gold

The only time an abortion is right is when you're raped or if you can't support the baby to the point that it will die.

Those fetuses wouldn't become human if not aborted?

Why are people ashamed to recognize that THERE ARE differences between women, therefore we are not equal?

I don't mean unequal in human rights, but we are not equal beings.

lets see, I am pretty much against abortion, there is one part that is really rediculous to me. "its my body" right, it is, but guess what? the body inside yours isnt your body, it is the child's body. And, the man should get a say too, after all he might really love that baby and want it, yet the woman is free to just say kill it? Those two things culminated seem pretty selfish to me.

Originally Posted by tkdyo

lets see, I am pretty much against abortion, there is one part that is really rediculous to me. "its my body" right, it is, but guess what? the body inside yours isnt your body, it is the child's body. And, the man should get a say too, after all he might really love that baby and want it, yet the woman is free to just say kill it? Those two things culminated seem pretty selfish to me.

There's neither a body nor a child so none of that has any relevance.

Feminists annoy the shit of me,

Originally Posted by Korittke

There's neither a body nor a child so none of that has any relevance.

lol, umm, lets see, then what is inside it? And the second point has relevance weather the baby is fully developed or not, way to tip toe around it.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

The fact that you feel like I was trying to say that men are better than women gives you no right to have an opinion. I don't give a fuck if physical ability matters in today's society. And it doesn't matter.

HONESTLY, I just said that to see if anybody would make an assumption if I was sexist.

Men are stronger than women. Can you agree with me without calling me a sexist? Because what I'm saying isnt sexist.

Well, no, it's not sexist to point it out, just irrelevant. You made the claim that because we are different, men and women "are not equal beings." When asked to clarify, you pulled out that men have superior strength. Now you say you were being purposely vague and inflammatory--i.e. trolling.

Congratulations, you win one (1) troll-hole and your 'contributions' will be discounted for the rest of the thread.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

I don't give a fuck

WHOA calm down you have some sexist issue for sure.

it's interesting, that it's really obvious which respondants are male and female.

Originally Posted by AnDUHrew

it's interesting, that it's really obvious which respondants are male and female.

Well take a guess at what I am then

Originally Posted by Good as Gold

I hate feminists.
Dividing people into 'Jews' and the rest of the world started WWII.

I thought that was Germany being all pissed off at France after WWI because they had to pay them millions of dollars among other things. I'm pretty sure Jews were just who Hitler and his evil army wanted to blame for all their misfortunes, it wasn't them being segregated that started it, in fact I'm pretty sure they were un-segregated before the war. :S

But you do have a good point, every person should have equal rights. I don't even kill spiders.

Originally Posted by wiltors42

I thought that was Germany being all pissed off at France after WWI because they had to pay them millions of dollars among other things. I'm pretty sure Jews were just who Hitler and his evil army wanted to blame for all their misfortunes, it wasn't them being segregated that started it, in fact I'm pretty sure they were un-segregated before the war. :S

But you do have a good point, every person should have equal rights. I don't even kill spiders.

How was hitler army evil???? Only the SS soliders were the ones who handles the jews and such. The rest of the army had very little knowledge of what was happening to the jews . Also hitler army were people who were fighting for their country. Just like the other countrys were.

Thats like saying America is evil because Bush is oil hungry or something like that.

But of course your statement was a opinion , so I guess your entitle to your opinion.

a lot of americans don't support bush. if we all did, by all means, call us evil

last I checked, nazis more than support hitler *they loooooovvvvvveeed him*

I believe most people just liked Hitler because he was giving them prosperity or were required to like him out of fear.

And I don't kill spiders either. VIVA LA SPIDER.

mmhmm. Jews were the easiest scape goat for the country's porblems. He was quite loved, there are still some people we know who lived in Germany then and support him now...its sad...

Then you have the president of Iran saying the Holocaust never happened...I wonder if he truely believes that...

Originally Posted by Good as Gold

And now, dividing people into women and men could start another.

So women and gays vs men...Lol obviously we win. But we also need pussy, so that war would be great as it would cause enslavement of women and gays and therefore feminism would be gone.

Originally Posted by Good as Gold

I hate feminists.

And not the awesome ones back in the twenties who honestly were doing the right thing- those flapper chicks were hot! Nowadays I don't hate the regular feminists who think they deserve equal opportunity. That's completely fair and anybody who says otherwise is just stupid as hell.

No, no no. I hate radical feminists.

The ones who march day and night. The ones who hate me just because I happen to have balls and not ovaries. Y'see, it's one thing to be equal. I think we're there right now, as a matter of fact. But it's as if they're trying to actually consciously trying to show how much better they are then me. They aren't. And I'm not better then them accept for the cold, hard, fact that they're fucking stupid and I'm not.

I may be a lot of things, like a jackass, an asshole, and a jerk, but I am not a chauvinist. I hate them too. If they want to get anywhere in the world they should stop dividing. Dividing people into black and white started the American Civil War. Dividing people into 'Jews' and the rest of the world started WWII. And now, dividing people into women and men could start another.

Abortion is a touchy issue. Personally I'm against it, but not for religious reasons. I'm not the least bit religious, (even though these particular views would fit snuggly on an Alabama fundamentalist.) but it's stupid. Once you have a child growing inside of you it isn't about your body anymore. It's the baby's body, - and don't bullshit me with, it isn't human yet! No, it's not. But it will be so quit being stupid.- the fathers, and yes, yours too. Live up to your own stupidity. Getting an abortion is just turning your back on responsibilities. The only time an abortion is right is when you're raped or if you can't support the baby to the point that it will die.

There's other stuff I could go into, like how women aren't in the draft even though it's been proven that they can do great. I don't see any protests about that, mein friends.

In the long run we need to look past things like race, religion, and gender and unite under one banner: Human.

Sir, you are right. ABSOLUTELY! That is exactly how I feel! Another thing I hate is how they say they want equality, but they don't. They want to be treated BETTER than us, and that sir, is absolute bullshit! I don't know who said it, but they said in best in saying, "This is how rain works. Evaporation gathers water particles in the clouds, Eventually there is too much water, and feminists make God cry."

How the fuck did this happen?