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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      You're ignorant. The text didn't originate on that website. It merely serves as one of hundreds of thousands of hosting stations for the tablets translated by Sumerian expert Dr. Zacharias Sitchin. I couldn't have been more clear about that...
      I don't doubt that you think the source is legit. But that means dick all. Why is it that when I see a tablet with a picture of what is clearly a helicopter on it, it's immediately obvious to me that it's a fake, whereas you immediately see it as evidence of alien astronauts? I guess it must be my critical thinking skills.

      You know, a lot of people used to think the famous crystal skulls of central america were real and had alien origins and whatnot. But guess what: turns out they were made in Germany in the 19th century. Misinformation spreads more quickly and easily than truth. And that's why you think you're the bastard child of an alien god.

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      i don't know if you people have just overlooked it or not but i've posted the entire tablet to do with the flooding story that comes from this sumerian culture, a huge portion of it is missing and they don't even have the end of it.

      Segment A

      approx. 36 lines missing

      1-10. …… sets up ……. "I will …… the perishing of my mankind; for Nintur, I will stop the annihilation of my creatures, and I will return the people from their dwelling grounds. Let them build many cities so that I can refresh myself in their shade. Let them lay the bricks of many cities in pure places, let them establish places of divination in pure places, and when the fire-quenching …… is arranged, the divine rites and exalted powers are perfected and the earth is irrigated, I will establish well-being there."

      10-14. After An, Enlil, Enki and Ninḫursaĝa had fashioned the black-headed people, they also made animals multiply everywhere, and made herds of four-legged animals exist on the plains, as is befitting.
      approx. 32 lines missing
      Segment B

      1-3.
      3 lines fragmentary

      4-5. "I will oversee their labour. Let …… the builder of the Land, dig a solid foundation."

      6-18. After the …… of kingship had descended from heaven, after the exalted crown and throne of kingship had descended from heaven, the divine rites and the exalted powers were perfected, the bricks of the cities were laid in holy places, their names were announced and the …… were distributed. The first of the cities, Eridug, was given to Nudimmud the leader. The second, Bad-tibira, was given to the Mistress. The third, Larag, was given to Pabilsaĝ. The fourth, Zimbir, was given to the hero Utu. The fifth, Šuruppag, was given to Sud. And after the names of these cities had been announced and the …… had been distributed, the river ……, …… was watered, and with the cleansing of the small canals …… were established.
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      1-27. ……seat in heaven. …… flood. …… mankind. So he made ……. Then Nintur ……. Holy Inana made a lament for its people. Enki took counsel with himself. An, Enlil, Enki and Ninḫursaĝa made all the gods of heaven and earth take an oath by invoking An and Enlil. In those days Zi-ud-sura the king, the gudug priest, ……. He fashioned ……. The humble, committed, reverent ……. Day by day, standing constantly at ……. Something that was not a dream appeared, conversation ……, …… taking an oath by invoking heaven and earth. In the Ki-ur, the gods …… a wall. Zi-ud-sura, standing at its side, heard: "Side-wall standing at my left side, ……. Side-wall, I will speak words to you; take heed of my words, pay attention to my instructions. A flood will sweep over the …… in all the ……. A decision that the seed of mankind is to be destroyed has been made. The verdict, the word of the divine assembly, cannot be revoked. The order announced by An and Enlil cannot be overturned. Their kingship, their term has been cut off; their heart should be rested about this. Now ……. What ……."
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      1-11. All the windstorms and gales arose together, and the flood swept over the ……. After the flood had swept over the land, and waves and windstorms had rocked the huge boat for seven days and seven nights, Utu the sun god came out, illuminating heaven and earth. Zi-ud-sura could drill an opening in the huge boat and the hero Utu entered the huge boat with his rays. Zi-ud-sura the king prostrated himself before Utu. The king sacrificed oxen and offered innumerable sheep.

      12-17.
      six lines fragmentary
      approx. 33 lines missing

      Segment E

      1-2. "They have made you swear by heaven and earth, ……. An and Enlil have made you swear by heaven and earth, ……."

      3-11. More and more animals disembarked onto the earth. Zi-ud-sura the king prostrated himself before An and Enlil. An and Enlil treated Zi-ud-sura kindly ……, they granted him life like a god, they brought down to him eternal life. At that time, because of preserving the animals and the seed of mankind, they settled Zi-ud-sura the king in an overseas country, in the land Dilmun, where the sun rises.

      12. "You ……."
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      Quite a contribution nitsuJ, thank you. Yes, most of the tablets are fragmented and broken off. Therefore Dr. Sitchin only translated what was intelligible. Others have translated them as well, but since he has dedicated nearly his entire life to the study of the Sumerians, he is known as the go to guy for Sumerian knowledge and archaeology.
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      Hey what is an Aryan anyway?

      I hear that the definition has changed a bit. Now it includes a larger branch than back when Hitler was alive.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHl_ZWc-PC8

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmIrN...eature=related'
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sandform View Post
      Hey what is an Aryan anyway?

      I hear that the definition has changed a bit. Now it includes a larger branch than back when Hitler was alive.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHl_ZWc-PC8

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmIrN...eature=related'
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan

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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zechari...hin.27s_claims
      I'm sorry but Sitchin is lost in translation.
      http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm

      Therefore Dr. Sitchin only translated what was intelligible
      I think he should have left the translations to the experts.

      he is known as the go to guy for Sumerian knowledge and archaeology.
      Actually this is wrong. Also, have you got any evidence for this.

      Also, the family tree thing you done is flawed, big time. If you go back 10 generations its highly likely your going to have a influencial ancestor. It just simple mathematics.

      These were a very advanced people who had very detailed knowledge regarding our planets elliptical patterns, their shapes, their individual colors (No...I'm not kidding you.),
      So they can tilt their head up, wow we. Please did you get this from Sitchin.

      Because what I'm about to tell you I have continually dug into through strenuous research and late night studying...what I'm about to tell you now is something you and I were never told in history class...
      You call this research. They don't teach it in history class because it is incorrect.

      Not only did I ponder this question but many alike such as "Why do we look so different? The blacks, whites, indians, latino's, etc."
      There is a whole scientific theory called Evolution that is devoted to anwsering this question.

      I'll let you draw your own conclusions as to what the above "crafts" resemble.
      How objective.

      And depending upon who you ask, others believe "The Watchers" bear a strong resemblance to this...
      How objective.

      Science has NOT confirmed that a great flood covered the earth...we would still see remnants of such a thing today...and that isn't the case.
      That small part proves the youtube video is rubbish.

      According the Sumerian text...after the great flood, the Gods came back down to earth and all had a change of heart, Enlil included. They vowed never to do such a thing again. Sound oddly familiar?
      Didn't you just say a great flood never happen. Doesn't this prove the Sumerian wrong? You can't get a big detail like the whole world flooding wrong. Also, I thought they had knowledge of the whole universe, how could they get this wrong?
      Last edited by wendylove; 08-19-2008 at 10:20 PM.
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      The planet Earth exhibits all of these properties and therefore can be considered alive and its own single organism by the scientific definition.
      7. Reproduction: The ability to produce new organisms.
      does the planet Earth reproduce, well no unless you count the moon.

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      According to my very quick calculation, if you go back about 37 generations, you can relate yourself to any human that has ever lived.

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      According to my very quick calculation, if you go back about 37 generations, you can relate yourself to any human that has ever lived.
      Yeah that sounds about right, however I think there is a large margin of error. I remeber reading that if Jesus had offspring and they had offspring, carrying on to today. Then most people alive today would be related to jesus in some way.
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      The planet Earth exhibits all of these properties and therefore can be considered alive and its own single organism by the scientific definition.
      7. Reproduction: The ability to produce new organisms.
      does the planet Earth reproduce, well no unless you count the moon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by wendylove View Post
      Yeah that sounds about right, however I think there is a large margin of error. I remeber reading that if Jesus had offspring and they had offspring, carrying on to today. Then most people alive today would be related to jesus in some way.
      too bad khan didn't live longer than he did, maybe i could of been a khan!

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      Quote Originally Posted by nitsuJ View Post
      Wow like I hadn't thought of that! Lol.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sandform View Post
      Wow like I hadn't thought of that! Lol.
      well it tells what it is

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      I was trying to make a point by posing the question...lol.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      According to my very quick calculation, if you go back about 37 generations, you can relate yourself to any human that has ever lived.
      What are the numbers on that exactly? Not that I don't believe you, I just like know the 'how' of things when I parrot them on to other people as interesting facts, like the Birthday Paradox.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alextanium View Post
      What are the numbers on that exactly? Not that I don't believe you, I just like know the 'how' of things when I parrot them on to other people as interesting facts, like the Birthday Paradox.
      Well, it isn't perfectly sound reasoning, but basically it goes like this: If you go back 1 generation, you have 2 or 2^1 ancestors. If you go back 2 generations, you have 2^2 ancestors in that generation. Actually, I can already see a mistake I made. Anyway, go back 37 generations and you should have 2^37 or over a hundred billion ancestors in that generation. Now that's impossible, but since only a hundred billion humans have ever lived, going back 37 generations should more than guarantee relations with everybody. Not iron-clad logic, I know.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Well, it isn't perfectly sound reasoning, but basically it goes like this: If you go back 1 generation, you have 2 or 2^1 ancestors. If you go back 2 generations, you have 2^2 ancestors in that generation. Actually, I can already see a mistake I made. Anyway, go back 37 generations and you should have 2^37 or over a hundred billion ancestors in that generation. Now that's impossible, but since only a hundred billion humans have ever lived, going back 37 generations should more than guarantee relations with everybody. Not iron-clad logic, I know.
      Your forgetting mass incest.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
      Your forgetting mass incest.
      Yes, but that would only reduce the number of required generations. So my estimate is a good upper limit.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Yes, but that would only reduce the number of required generations. So my estimate is a good upper limit.
      Good point. How long is a generation on average, btw?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
      Good point. How long is a generation on average, btw?
      About 25 years now, 15-20 years around the dawn of civilization. I know what you're thinking. 20 x 37 is only 7400 years, but humans have been around much longer. Like I said, it was only a very rough estimate. Actually, it still works as an upper limit because the extra time humanity has existed would be accounted for by incest.

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      Pure bloods of what? So this is stating that "Blond hair, blue eyes" are pure blooded or non human/aliens? If there was an Enki, his offspring was still not pure blooded due to the fact that the baby's mama (lol) was a human. And for non offspring, they were also siblings for the fact they are alien/clay. Only difference would be a higher concentration of alien blood as its said. And even so? True? Come...on.....

      Also, just because this is an early story of creation, most definitely does not make it true. Probably a reason to think of it as more BS. Also, comparing the bible with this doesn't say anything except that the bible is merely a revised copy of the Sumerian's POV, nothing more. I do have faith in the bible even so.. Ehh...


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      Quote Originally Posted by malac View Post
      Pure bloods of what? So this is stating that "Blond hair, blue eyes" are pure blooded or non human/aliens? If there was an Enki, his offspring was still not pure blooded due to the fact that the baby's mama (lol) was a human. And for non offspring, they were also siblings for the fact they are alien/clay. Only difference would be a higher concentration of alien blood as its said. And even so? True? Come...on.....

      Also, just because this is an early story of creation, most definitely does not make it true. Probably a reason to think of it as more BS. Also, comparing the bible with this doesn't say anything except that the bible is merely a revised copy of the Sumerian's POV, nothing more. I do have faith in the bible even so.. Ehh...


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      Yes, it's exactly what the story was trying to suggest, "Blonde hair and blue eyes didn't exist until humans and aliens had sex."

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      I don't think its true, but Hitler was a crazy mother fucker. I could see him thinking something like that.
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      I don't want to burst your bubble, Jeff, but your sources are bad. I'm assuming you either got all this directly from Zecharia Sitchin's books, or from internet sites that are basing it off of his work.

      The problem is, Sitchin's translations of Sumerian texts/ tablets are just plain wrong. There are a lot of people out there who legitimately study the Sumerian language, and none of them have come up with any mythology even close to what he has invented.

      Don't get me wrong, I love a cool mythology as much as the next guy. I still read about this stuff on the internet at least once a week, because it is fascinating. Just don't get carried away thinking this is real. The "Sumerian creation stories" you are referencing are all pure fiction, invented specifically to support these theories.

      Like I said, I still keep my eye on this, because I would love it if it were all true.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alextanium View Post
      Osiris-Dionysus of 5th century BC. The Church's explanation for the similarity is that Satan saw Jesus' life in full before it occurred, so he counterfeited the myths of Osiris and Dionysus in advance... riiiiight.
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      Humans have a hard time accepting that we're just animals. We came into existence on Earth in the same way that other lifeforms on this planet have. We evolved from ape-like creatures into modern man. We need to learn to accept this.
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      Nevermind, upon reading everyone's responses, I see Wendylove has everything under control.
      http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm
      Is the link I was just trying to remember.

      And I'm glad Alextanium mentioned Osiris-Dionysus in regards to the Jesus myth. If you ever want to lose a few months with your head in a book, start reading up on the progression of Egyptian religion into Roman culture, and the Mystery Cults. That is always good ammunition for debating Bible historicity.

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