Thread: October 14, First Contact

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

Yeah the non evidence that UFOs don't exist.

(alien)UFO's don't exist isn't the claim. (alien)UFOs do exist is the claim. Lol it is like you've never had a discussion before...Oh wait I forgot you're retarded... Must I bring out the pink unicorn or the FSM?


Edit: The only evidence for the non-existence of something is the lack of evidence for its existence. Thus I see no reason to believe that UFOs are alien tech. I do see reason to believe that there are morons who misinterpret things and enjoy lieing.

Don't make any tinfoil hats just yet, people. Keep in mind that this alien stuff is just as big a crock now as it has ever been.

Originally Posted by Sandform

UFO's don't exist isn't the claim. UFOs do exist is the claim. Lol it is like you've never had a discussion before...Oh wait I forgot you're retarded... Must I bring out the pink unicorn or the FSM?


Edit: The only evidence for the non-existence of something is the lack of evidence for its existence. Thus I see no reason to believe that UFOs are alien tech. I do see reason to believe that there are morons who misinterpret things and enjoy lieing.

I guess the only way to know if it's non alien is to see a human...but you can't say it's human made because you don't see any humans. Maybe it flys by itself...i guess that's the only evidence we have, but there is evidence, and people who worked in the government already said there are aliens, that's enough for me. Then again if you believe UFO's fly by themselves because lack of evidence of aliens you gotta say airplanes fly by themselves too because you see no people inside them, thus no evidence people are inside to fly it but you know people fly it and you know aliens fly UFO's.

It's pretty pathetic how much in denial this world is, i think i may laugh. It's almost as bogus as those conspiricy theoryists nutjobs.
I guess aliens are the new "if you believe in aliens you might aswell believe in unicorns".

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

I guess the only way to know if it's non alien is to see a human...but you can't say it's human made because you don't see any humans. Maybe it flys by itself...i guess that's the only evidence we have, but there is evidence, and people who worked in the government already said there are aliens, that's enough for me. Then again if you believe UFO's fly by themselves because lack of evidence of aliens you gotta say airplanes fly by themselves too because you see no people inside them, thus no evidence people are inside to fly it but you know people fly it and you know aliens fly UFO's.

It's pretty pathetic how much in denial this world is, i think i may laugh. It's almost as bogus as those conspiricy theoryists nutjobs.
I guess aliens are the new "if you believe in aliens you might aswell believe in unicorns".

There was a military show on once that showed a "flying saucer" the military made and flew around. People thought it was "aliens." Obviously not. We've never seen an alien, so why believe in one?

MILITARY FLYING SAUCERS

LIKE OMG.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

I guess the only way to know if it's non alien is to see a human...but you can't say it's human made because you don't see any humans. Maybe it flys by itself...i guess that's the only evidence we have, but there is evidence, and people who worked in the government already said there are aliens, that's enough for me. Then again if you believe UFO's fly by themselves because lack of evidence of aliens you gotta say airplanes fly by themselves too because you see no people inside them, thus no evidence people are inside to fly it but you know people fly it and you know aliens fly UFO's.

I think you are confused...which people are those?...what were their positions?

So far all I have heard is "people" and "other countries" have said aliens exist with no specifics as to what other countries, and what people, thus verifying the claims of what people said is impossible because aren't being told who said it.

Actually I have seen people inside of airplanes...and even if it is remote controlled a human being is still flying it, aside from autopilot.

Also you are setting up a strawman by saying "en again if you believe UFO's fly by themselves."


I believe UFOs are the product of normal air crafts or air born objects being viewed by people without all the information and then these people jump to the conclusion that it is an alien vessel.

Edit: Question: Lucid Flanders...what is your position and what do you think my position is on the subject?

Originally Posted by Sandform

I think you are confused...which people are those?...what were their positions?

Military, or people who worked in area 51. You can find youtubes of these.

So far all I have heard is "people" and "other countries" have said aliens exist with no specifics as to what other countries, and what people, thus verifying the claims of what people said is impossible because aren't being told who said it.

I never said other countrys, just people in the government. Those alien autopsies are all fake though.

Actually I have seen people inside of airplanes...and even if it is remote controlled a human being is still flying it, aside from autopilot.

Yes, on the ground. I am talking about in the air, high in the air. Also not talking about remote controlled as you already see the person controlling it unless your in the bush.

Also you are setting up a strawman by saying "en again if you believe UFO's fly by themselves."

Stop finding excuses.

I believe UFOs are the product of normal air crafts or air born objects being viewed by people without all the information and then these people jump to the conclusion that it is an alien vessel.

I only have 2 stories in mind which i believe. Roswell, and the Phoenix lights. The rest i could care less about.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

Military, or people who worked in area 51. You can find youtubes of these.

If you have seen these then you should show me the ones YOU believe are the right ones...since if I pick the wrong videos and refute those you could say "that wasn't what I was talking about."

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

I never said other countrys, just people in the government. Those alien autopsies are all fake though.

I was refering to Juroari.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

Yes, on the ground. I am talking about in the air, high in the air. Also not talking about remote controlled as you already see the person controlling it unless your in the bush.

I have been in an airplane while it was in the air...there were people in it. I can logically and rightfully deduce that an airplane has at least one person in it. There are exceptions such as piloting from afar to test a machine without endangering anyone...

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

Stop finding excuses.

Excuses for what?...that you are trying to argue a point that I'm not making?

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

I only have 2 stories in mind which i believe. Roswell, and the Phoenix lights. The rest i could care less about.

Well that is great...

Originally Posted by Sandform

If you have seen these then you should show me the ones YOU believe are the right ones...since if I pick the wrong videos and refute those you could say "that wasn't what I was talking about."

Any related to the 2 stories i believe.

I was refering to Juroari.

Ok, sorry.

I have been in an airplane while it was in the air...there were people in it. I can logically and rightfully deduce that an airplane has at least one person in it. There are exceptions such as piloting from afar to test a machine without endangering anyone...

I'm talking about you on the ground, and the airplane in the air or i can easily revert this to "but you wern't in a UFO so you have no idea".

Excuses for what?...that you are trying to argue a point that I'm not making?

The point you and people in this thread try and make...aliens don't exist, ufo's are man made, everyone who believes other life in the universe is a joke, etc. Reading between the lines.

Well that is great...

Yes, it is.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

The point you and people in this thread try and make...aliens don't exist, ufo's are man made, everyone who believes other life in the universe is a joke, etc. Reading between the lines.

Try not to say what others believe when you don't understand it. You are creating a strawman. "everyone who believes [in] other life in the universe is a joke." No, it isn't that other life in the universe is a joke, it is that the idea of them coming here, and showing up just to not communicate and probe people is just stupid.

"Alien Autopsy" Film a Hoax Concludes Scientific Organization

http://www.csicop.org/articles/roswell_film.html

"Alien Autopsy" Hoax

http://www.csicop.org/si/9511/autopsy.html

Mysterious Phoenix Lights a UFO Hoax

http://www.livescience.com/strangene...ix-lights.html

Man claims responsibility for Phoenix mystery lights

http://www.ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=814826

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Originally Posted by Sandform

Try not to say what others believe when you don't understand it. You are creating a strawman. "everyone who believes [in] other life in the universe is a joke." No, it isn't that other life in the universe is a joke, it is that the idea of them coming here, and showing up just to not communicate and probe people is just stupid.

Yes, just plain stupid.

Originally Posted by Sandform

I think you are confused...which people are those?...what were their positions?

So far all I have heard is "people" and "other countries" have said aliens exist with no specifics as to what other countries, and what people, thus verifying the claims of what people said is impossible because aren't being told who said it.

my internet has been acting up all day, making it hard to post!

first off, this is the october thread. the disclosure project has no affiliation with new age channelers! I want to keep my threads as clean as possible

I said other countries have disclosed. that means they have opened up certain UFO files to the public. NOT that they were saying aliens are real

ill post links there

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

We've never seen an alien, so why believe in one?

Have you ever seen an atom?

Have you ever seen the wind?

Have you ever seen a particle, and what is beyond a particle that you have seen?

Experience is truth, and all is subjective.

Originally Posted by ClouD

Have you ever seen an atom?

Have you ever seen the wind?

Have you ever seen a particle, and what is beyond a particle that you have seen?

Experience is truth, and all is subjective.

Do you know your anatomy?

Originally Posted by Sandform

Do you know your anatomy?

Does Barney Rubble have two heads?

Originally Posted by The Enterer

Does Barney Rubble have two heads?

My joke was relevant...>(i

Although that was a pretty funny clip.

Sight is linear.

There's a great possibility that there is life in some other part of the universe BUT I do not susscribe to conspiracy theories about some random human predicting their arrival on Earth.

Let's stick to science.

Originally Posted by Sandform

Do you know your anatomy?

Wow, Vegeta's voice sucks.

why are some people so pessimistic?

Originally Posted by euphoria_

why are some people so pessimistic?

It's not all bad. I have to give them points for setting a specific and immediate date, place and event for their prediction. That way there's really no room for excuses. Of course they'll deceive themselves anyway, but I like to think that deep down this one sticks in their mind and makes them consider, if just for a moment, that they're filled to the brim with BS.

Assuming this does come true, what kind of "truth" do you think they speak of? us dieing and going to heaven? or just some spiritual stuff. If this happens would you stay the same or become more spiritual? i would stay the same most likely.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

us dieing and going to heaven?

there is a much bigger picture than that my friend, .

9/11 hysteria did not last 10 days.