Thread: And it Begins: RFIDs

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Any normal lighting conditions, any angle less than 20 degrees off centre and hundreds of faces at once, not dozens. They've been used at the last couple superbowls to watch for terrorists. A dozen people at once? Where are you getting your information? Those cameras had to go through 90,000 people, do you know how long that would take if the cameras could only go through a dozen at a time?

The airports I mentioned also have thousands of people going through them every day. 12 at a time would be worthless.

12 or so per second. That's what, half a million over 24 hours? Can you give a link to a wiki or something talking about this magical software?

Originally Posted by drewmandan

12 or so per second. That's what, half a million over 24 hours? Can you give a link to a wiki or something talking about this magical software?

There is other magical software called google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_recognition_system

RFID tracking will require the same warrants that tracking someone with other means do. You realize that your cell phone emits far stronger signals than any RFID chip right? They communicate with towers miles away, not 30 feet. Be in range of 3 scanners, and they can triangulate your position.


Oh, I just read that article, seems lighting is no concern because the cameras scan in IR and have IR illuminators.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

There is other magical software called google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_recognition_system

I stand corrected. You should be worried.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

RFID tracking will require the same warrants that tracking someone with other means do. You realize that your cell phone emits far stronger signals than any RFID chip right? They communicate with towers miles away, not 30 feet. Be in range of 3 scanners, and they can triangulate your position.


Oh, I just read that article, seems lighting is no concern because the cameras scan in IR and have IR illuminators.

Yes, but as you pointed out earlier, the government isn't privy to private signals. I'd be more worried about RFIDs than cell phones because the government has a monopoly on the justice system, don't they?

Originally Posted by drewmandan

Yes, but as you pointed out earlier, the government isn't privy to private signals. I'd be more worried about RFIDs than cell phones because the government has a monopoly on the justice system, don't they?

RFIDs aren't issued by the government. Their immediate use is medical records and credit cards.

Most of the big names in medical technology are in The Netherlands. If the US government wants their secrets they'll have to invade The Netherlands but they don't have any oil.

Credit Card companies are multinational and can keep their secrets safe from the government. The government can't ask a credit card company for your credit information without a permit, they won't be able to get your RFID information either.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

RFIDs aren't issued by the government. Their immediate use is medical records and credit cards.

Most of the big names in medical technology are in The Netherlands. If the US government wants their secrets they'll have to invade The Netherlands but they don't have any oil.

Credit Card companies are multinational and can keep their secrets safe from the government. The government can't ask a credit card company for your credit information without a permit, they won't be able to get your RFID information either.

For the last time, I am referring to the New York State "Enhanced" Driver's Licenses and similar IDs.

Did you not see my "then don't get one and shut the fuck up" remark? Those are designed to make border crossing faster. If you don't go back and forth to Canada very often then just don't get one. They wouldn't be worth it to you anyway, they cost 30 dollar extra.

They don't need to track your every move. The majority of the population already acts like sheep. Stop worrying, they don't need to implement a totalitarian state, so they wont. They already have control, and they wont lose it without a revolution, which, unfortunately, doesn't look like its going to happen here any time soon. And even oppressive regimes have been overthrown in history.