... Meat is disgusting... at least the meat that is in the U.S. |
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... Meat is disgusting... at least the meat that is in the U.S. |
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"...and we want punks in the palace, 'cos punks got the loveliest dreams..." - A Silver Mt. Zion
It was the best of times. It was the end of times.
What the fuck happened to these two threads?! |
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Zing! |
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My friend's dad wrked at a hotdog factory, it's just like all sausages, it's the meat that's too small to sell on its own. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
“What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume
U guys are brutal! |
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Hey for me Personally Suicide is just Not an option. but that's merely personal. |
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Last edited by SKA; 10-19-2008 at 05:50 PM.
Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
If you don't eat meat because you think we shouldn't eat animals, you are a bloody fucking dumbass. I think I'm gonna have an extra hotdog to piss you all off. |
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Well hang on...so you people are bloody fucking dumbasses to decide that we shouldn't eat things that feel pain...or are upset with the idea of you killing them? |
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I encountered a REALLY great T-shirt one day that had a pic of a Koala, Tukan-bird and a Pandabear and said " For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat 3". I was laughing for 3 days straight after having seen that. |
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Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
Eating plants isn't murder because plants aren't conscious. |
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I beg to differ. I don't think we can judge the presence or lack of consciousness in beings measuring by our own standards. When we think of consciousness we think of human consciousness as the standard. Not that that means a being cannot be conscious when it doesn't meet these standards. It's just hypocritical to not eat meat, "out of respect of life" while at the same time eating plants; which are forms of life as well. IMO Consciousness = Life. I don't know any unconscious living beings do you? |
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Last edited by SKA; 10-19-2008 at 08:28 PM.
Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
No, if consciousness depicts life. Plants aren't conscious, they aren't aware, they are as aware as crystals or laundry detergent. Furthermore there is no need for a stationairy "being" who does not have motor skills to have consciousness. Some plants, it is true, react to the environment, but only in the same way a coke can reacts to being put in the icebox. |
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I am sorry man, with all the knowledge we have of our brains and their relation to conciousness, it is just about impossible to seriously uphold the theory that plants are concious in a way that is even slightly similar to human beings. A brain-dead person kept alive is almost literally a veritable in the sense that it completely not-concious. Since this difference clearly exist, even some other-wise very pro-life people could agree that taking a brain-dead body off life-support is very different from a non-braindead person. There is a big big difference between living things with brain-activity and without it, as far as conciousness is concerned. Since one category simply has none. The way plants react to their environment is on such a basic mechanical level, that if you are saying plants have conciouness then talking-walking teletubby dolls certainly have conciousness. Do they? |
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“What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume
Agreed, I believe there was a case where a girl (somehow) was braindead but could live without life support. (I'm guessing the only thing left in her was her primate brain or ancient mammalian brain or whatever you would wish to call it) |
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Go back and read the context of that conversation LucidFlanders. |
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“What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume
Plants communicate with insects by means of airborne chemicals they secrete. When attacked by caterpillars and bugs they "warn" other plants, which in turn go into defense mode (poison, close leaves, etc) or attract other animals that come to their aid by killing and eating up the bugs and caterpillars attacking the plant. |
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Last edited by SKA; 10-19-2008 at 09:46 PM.
Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
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