Thread: "Why do I like boys?"

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

Well, it's a genetic "aberration". Or mutation if you will.
It certainly is not a disorder, as a disorder means you do something "abnormal" because of trauma, or something that happened to you after birth.

I don't really know, but he was implying that it was something curable, or a disease so to speak. But that's simply not proven.
It's an ongoing discussion, mainly focused on homosexuality; "Is it genetic? Is it something in childhood? Something went wrong in the womb?" The same questions can be asked about pedophilia. And it really doesn't matter why, because it just is. And the common opinion is that you can't "cure" either of them.

EDIT:
Oh yeah, now that we're there. I've bookmarked some sites that are interesting about pedophilia.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/pedophile.htm This one has some interesting points. It's about tolerating pedophiles. Read it, biatches.
http://newgon.com/wiki/Research:_Nonsexual_aspects Research on the non-sexual aspects of pedophilia. Just like there are non-sexual aspects of being a homosexual or heterosexual.

And here's a guy who is just awesome, talking about pedophilia (and sexuality): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G862Kh88gQw

Originally Posted by Maeni

I don't really know, but he was implying that it was something curable, or a disease so to speak. But that's simply not proven.
It's an ongoing discussion, mainly focused on homosexuality; "Is it genetic? Is it something in childhood? Something went wrong in the womb?" The same questions can be asked about pedophilia. And it really doesn't matter why, because it just is. And the common opinion is that you can't "cure" either of them.

It has been proven to be genetic, actually.
All humans, men and women, have an "attraction to men" gene. In the case of men, this is generally quite low. In case of homosexual men, it is stronger.
Not sure about pedophilia, but it could be similar.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

It has been proven to be genetic, actually.
All humans, men and women, have an "attraction to men" gene. In the case of men, this is generally quite low. In case of homosexual men, it is stronger.
Not sure about pedophilia, but it could be similar.

As far as I know, yeah, they found a gay-gene in men. But there's a problem. They haven't found a gay-gene in women.

http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html
^First thing that popped up on searching for "gay-gene".
Scientists are FAR FROM done with finding out why sexuality works the way it does. It's really not proven yet.

EDIT: By the way I've edited my past posts like an edit-whore. In case you didn't notice.

EDIT: If you think the answer is just "It's genetic."
Then why is this thread 6 pages long? (Assuming that there's both a gay-gene, and a pedo-gene.)

Originally Posted by Maeni

As far as I know, yeah, they found a gay-gene in men. But there's a problem. They haven't found a gay-gene in women.

http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html
^First thing that popped up on searching for "gay-gene".
Scientists are FAR FROM done with finding out why sexuality works the way it does. It's really not proven yet.

EDIT: By the way I've edited my past posts like an edit-whore. In case you didn't notice.

EDIT: If you think the answer is just "It's genetic."
Then why is this thread 6 pages long? (Assuming that there's both a gay-gene, and a pedo-gene.)

First of all, take it easy - I just read an article somewhere where I got that information. Sorry if you found something that contradicts it.

Second, why would this thread be 6 pages long? Answer: Ignorance, prejudice, and straying from the main topic.

"Third, if the authors are correct, we're not really talking about genes for homosexuality. We're talking about genes for "androphilia," i.e., attraction to men. The importance of the genes lies in what they do not to men but to women, by increasing reproductive output so powerfully that these women compensate for the reduced output among their male relatives. You can't isolate gay men as a puzzle or problem anymore. You have to see them as part of a bigger, stronger, enduring phenomenon."

Source: http://www.slate.com/id/2194232/

"Fourth, this larger phenomenon can't be dismissed as a disorder. The study's press release concludes that "homosexuality should not be viewed as a detrimental trait (due to the reduced male fecundity it entails), but, rather, should be considered within the wider evolutionary framework of a characteristic with gender-specific benefits."

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

First of all, take it easy - I just read an article somewhere where I got that information. Sorry if you found something that contradicts it.

Second, why would this thread be 6 pages long? Answer: Ignorance, prejudice, and straying from the main topic.

"Third, if the authors are correct, we're not really talking about genes for homosexuality. We're talking about genes for "androphilia," i.e., attraction to men. The importance of the genes lies in what they do not to men but to women, by increasing reproductive output so powerfully that these women compensate for the reduced output among their male relatives. You can't isolate gay men as a puzzle or problem anymore. You have to see them as part of a bigger, stronger, enduring phenomenon."

Source: http://www.slate.com/id/2194232/

"Fourth, this larger phenomenon can't be dismissed as a disorder. The study's press release concludes that "homosexuality should not be viewed as a detrimental trait (due to the reduced male fecundity it entails), but, rather, should be considered within the wider evolutionary framework of a characteristic with gender-specific benefits."

I didn't understand that at all.
Either way, genetic or not, it's not something you can or even should try to cure. Atleast when you talk about homosexuality. And I personally believe the same holds true about pedophilia. Soon, I'll be able to talk about that from experience, since I'm currently trying. (Or the psychiatrists and psychologists are.)

But yeah, I don't believe that homosexuality is genetic. But I still think you could say that you were "born that way", in the sense that after you're born, there's still alot of time before you're going to fully be yourself. And during that time alot can influence you. Very very tiny and subtle things can have a huge effect later on. Perhaps you saw a beautiful orange leaf, and you grew a liking to the color, orange. And later you saw blah blah blah. And so on. Gettit?

Yeah. That. I lost my words~
EDIT:
We are discussing that >:O
Atleast, this post does. We're discussing wether it's genetics now.

Don't read the following. tl;dr: I'm sorry for going off-topic.
Otherwise, I'm sorry. Do you know how it feels, do you? DO YOU? To be attacked like that, plumbed into a narrow stereotype as a monster and child molester. Hated by many, attacked for being open about it. Shunned, unaccepted. Doomed to live on the outside. It's as if it's determined from the beginning. Young in body. Evil at heart. The witch-hunt of today.
We live in the shadows. The shadows being the internet. The normal people seek the shadows and attack us with numbers and might. This time around, it was possible to fight back because the opposing force had no big numbers, neither any might. It was only natural that this would bring out the hidden away hate that lives deep down, that otherwise never comes out. Only in the shadows.

OK, I'm done. Sorry.
Disclaimer: Above small-texted message is a joke.

I didn't say it could be cured.
And not understanding an article is no valid reason to claim it to be wrong.
What you're getting at sounds a lot like the butterfly effect. But you do realize that children growing after birth, even into puberty, are STILL busy becoming what their genetic code dictated them to be? In other words, if it "happens" after birth, it could still be genetic.

I suppose you may be right...

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