Thread: Entheogen: Awakening The Divine Within

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

The scientific method is all about escaping human bias to find truth. They allowed religion to continue to have control of subjective life, of the other side of duality. Then, instead of re-exploring and trying to merge this other aspect of existence, they simply decried it doesn't exist at all. Instead of reconnecting the two sides of duality, they denied one side altogether.

This is something I have thought about before; and I feel it is part of the reason that spiritual matters or psychedelic experiences are outcast of the mainstream.

You have the two main streams
of Science
and Religion.

Religion will not take these matters because they encroach on their own subjectivity and individual meaning they impart to their followers, and take away their followers from the true path. This is obviously fallacious on my part as that does not apply in many situations but I feel it is the heart of the idea.

Science, on the other hand, will not take these things into the fold because of their gross subjectivity. If something changes for every person how could it be cataloged? You cannot research it except for yourself; and while that is useful for the human race it does not enrich it how many people originally envision, sharing the results in an objective manner.

So we come to the flaw.

Many things come into this subjectivity. Take sexuality as an example.

Religion rejects the subjectivity of sexuality that is not its own.

Science ignores the subjectivity of it towards the objective causes or issues.

(A quick digression: By Religions I do not always mean the spiritual. I define it here as holding one subjective experience over another. This may be thinking the o: smiley is better than the , or preferring vinyl over CDs. Perhaps there is a better word but bear with me.)

You thus have to make your own third path. The third path of the subjective spirit will then be rejected by both camps; you cannot share your subjectivity to the established Religions, or share any objectivity to the Sciences.

You are alone. And this is what makes finding yourself so hard.

Humans like to fit in with the Religions. Being alone and opposed to everything is unpleasant; constant pressures telling you that you are wrong, or at least inaccurate. That you are actually like this. This is were solitude helps

Sciences are to escape these pressures for certain things, like deciding which car to buy or what is the best medicine (on a low level example) but they cannot help you in the subjective realm. Obsessively wanting to grow wings is hard to define objectively; it would not be practical in many senses, and yet it feels right.

So where was I going with this? I'm not sure. I may edit in a conclusion.

It's that subconscious disconnect that allows us to not take note or be thankful for each meal, and not ever have to consciously toil over one of the most essential and basic needs-- hunger, which in turn creates a culture emotionally despondent and distant from their primal roots of spirit and essence of their being.

your right..we're not connected with our subconscious like we should.

I've been trying to reestablish that link from conscious mind to subconscious mind in waking life....."communicating directly with the subconscious during waking life" but it is difficult. We are so far apart. Everyone is.

I had a communication with the subconscious ONE time....a channeling from a "oversoul" or "higher self" if you like..and that was when I awoke from sleeping prematurely. It was brief, but it was also something i definitely needed to hear.

I don't know why it's so difficult to establish that link in waking life. They say you just have to listen, but maybe the logical/conscious mind is just rambling too much. Meditation does seem to help though.

There is definitely something more..if anyone here has ever meditated or even WILDed...you know that beneath conscious thoughts, is another layer. The subconscious thoughts. For me, they are really chaotic.

If there is going to be any evolution for the human race it will be that. Complete reconnection with the subconscious. Left brain and right brain fully united.

I applaud everyone of you, yes even you Wakata Dreamer for just coming in here. Very nicely put HaRd_WiReD, i believe this too, but only if enough people start looking away from their cellphones, tv shows, societal peer pressures, and money as the only meaningful substance to life. Otherwise we're a doomed race. Meditation is a top priority in reconnecting with the subconscious mind. You must first quite it your conscious before you can hear that which lies beneath.

For a race that has two eyes when one is enough, we are very blind.

Originally Posted by MementoMori

For a race that has two eyes when one is enough, we are very blind.

I love it.

And this thread is amazing. I do not currently have anything to give back. I agree with all of it, and I have gained a lot from it.

Originally Posted by CanceledCzech

I love it.

And this thread is amazing. I do not currently have anything to give back. I agree with all of it, and I have gained a lot from it.

Seconded. I'm about halfway through the film and I only wish that I could show this to the world.

Originally Posted by katielovestrees

Seconded. I'm about halfway through the film and I only wish that I could show this to the world.

lol I used to think like this too. Then I realized that most people are in a deep sleep and cannot be awaken unless they want to be. Meaning: half the world would just scoff this off as bullshit.

yeah, what CC said, i would go to Every One's home and show them this if i knew it would open their eyes, but most people are blind to the points made in the OP, meaning even if you show them they wont see what you see, they'll see the "devils" and the "immoral" in the video and then blast you with stereotypes and criticism and hatred.

But i agree katie, i would love to be able to show this to everyone so that at least i hit the 2/20 people actually "awake" with it.

Originally Posted by CanceledCzech

lol I used to think like this too. Then I realized that most people are in a deep sleep and cannot be awaken unless they want to be. Meaning: half the world would just scoff this off as bullshit.

Yeah, unfortunately most people are too fucking disenchanted (to use a word from the film) to actually give a shit.

I was talking to my friend last night and she asked what I was watching so I told her. Her response? "even i have to say that sounds gay lol" and "omg how u watching this its soooo fucking boring lmao."

A part of me died a little inside.