Thread: US Marine Throws Puppy Over Cliff

Old news.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9014215AAPKhnS

It is kinda fucked up, but the explanation written in the link does make sense. I'm not saying it's right, but it is understandable how desensitized and darkened you would become after being shot at. If it truly was starving/sick and there wasn't medicine available, I suppose the humane thing to do would be to kill it the quickest way possible as to prevent prolonged suffering. He should have just shot it.

In my opinion, it was more of him being stupid than being malicious or evil. Many people who watched the video didn't realize that the dog was going to die anyways so they thought the soldier just wanted to kill the dog for no reason. It is still the wrong way to do it though. To me, it was just out of him making a dumb decision or trying to be funny to his friend/s instead of wanting to be mean and kill a puppy.

That's f'ed up...

I mean, if the dog was just going to die, then why not leave it alone, or inject it with something to let it go peacefully?

Originally Posted by slayer

That's f'ed up...

I mean, if the dog was just going to die, then why not leave it alone, or inject it with something to let it go peacefully?

Yeah, inject it with the regulation supply of barbituates...

Come on. The best they could do was shoot it. He threw it off a cliff - not too much different, it probably died pretty quick.

What the fuck? That is fucking wrong. Somebody tell me why the fuck that son of a bitch did that. Personally, if I could meet him, I'd push him off a fucking cliff, show him how it fucking feels.

Sorry, anger release, that was cruel though.

Originally Posted by Everlong

What the fuck? That is fucking wrong. Somebody tell me why the fuck that son of a bitch did that. Personally, if I could meet him, I'd push him off a fucking cliff, show him how it fucking feels.

Sorry, anger release, that was cruel though.

Me too, minus the last sentence.

I'm Sorry, but I really feel disgusted at some of the people on this thread. I didn't see any evidence that the puppy was sick. If it was, The marine could just have broken it's neck or a similar quick death, there was NO NEED to throw it over a f**king cliff!!!! I'm no animal rights activist, but I hate with a passion cruelty to animals, especially for the purposes of *fun*. Now I know this is opening up a whole new can of worms, and i know that humans aren't the same as animals, but just think. If there were a sick person, who wanted to be euthanized, and who's death under your control, which would you do: throw them off a cliff, or give them a quick death? There was absolutely no point in making the last few moments of that dog's life full of terror. And, I'm sorry, but it could definitely had a chance of surviving for a while after it hit the ground. I mean, people SKYDIVE, hit the ground without a parachute, and survive/recover. Can you honestly tell me that this dog couldn't have lived for a few minutes after the impact? I'm glad this bastard was discharged, I would gladly punch him in the face if I saw him.

*EDIT* Oh, and also, don't think that I value this dog's life over a humans. I despise killing of people too. So don't try the "so you're bothered about this but not the fact that marines kill women/children etc.". Because yes, I hate that that happens even more, but this still made me sick to my stomach. How could anyone do such a thing? I really don't understand.

Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick

He threw it off a cliff - not too much different, it probably died pretty quick.

Yeah, after a good round of pure, unabated (and completely unnecessary) terror, while being flung through the air like a javelin.

What's worst about the video is not that they killed the puppy, and not really all that much about how they killed the puppy - it's how much they enjoyed killing the puppy. It says a lot about them, and I think it's pretty sick. Of course, they are Marines, they are expected to be killing machines, but "getting creative" about (allegedly mercifully) killing a puppy by laughing and saying "aww how cute" before slinging him off a cliff and video taping it to show to their buddies is pretty demented.

How much different would the story of Old Yeller be if they punted the dog off the cliff, screaming "later, bitch!!" and laughing their asses off, after she contracted rabies?

"Mercy-killing" or not, it's still pretty fuckin sick, if you ask me.

I can understand why he did it. The dog was certain to die anyway, espescially considering it was a puppy, however, it probably wasn't necessary to throw it off a cliff.

To be fair to them, they could have done a lot worse things to it. It wasn't as if they were torturing the puppy, also, from that height the fall would have killed it near instantaneously.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning their actions, he definitely should have shot it (the guy himself admits that).

Shooting it would be a waste of bullets.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

How much different would the story of Old Yeller be if they punted the dog off the cliff, screaming "later, bitch!!" and laughing their asses off, after she contracted rabies?

A much better movie

I'm surprised people are still talking about this video.

All this situation proves is how dangerous submitting footage to the internet is.

A marine is trained to kill the enemy.
this is just pathetic, he goes and laughs about killing a dog when he could have been getting rid of some terrorist instead.
Any marine in my family would tell me that's fucked up.

Originally Posted by PhantomBPR

A much better movie

I'm surprised people are still talking about this video.

All this situation proves is how dangerous submitting footage to the internet is.

And how incriminating it is to film something like that in the first place... Too many soft hearted people.

If it was a cockroach you wouldn't care.

Originally Posted by slayer

That's f'ed up...

I mean, if the dog was just going to die, then why not leave it alone, or inject it with something to let it go peacefully?

OK... You don't get it, do you? I'm in the Army and I haven't seen action, hopefully never will. But I understand what it is like- It's a fucking war-zone, HUMANS are trying to kill them and they must shoot back- do you think they give two shits about a dog? They were being merciful to the thing, and yes, it would have been more humane to shoot it.

There are no injections, there is hardly enough supplies to sustain them. They are going into combat without body armor against high calibre bullet rounds. You are asking for an injection for a fucking dog. It's war, there's no such thing as 'humane' in the general sense when you're killing PEOPLE every day. Hell, at least the hippies are whining about Marines killing people and not dogs...

And here's another thing- You should show them more damned respect. They're out there busting their asses and following orders, orders that some do not agree with. I don't agree with the war in Iraq, but the minute I am asked to saddle up, I will simply answer "Yes Sir!". My heart goes out to the men and women on the frontlines.

And slayer, sorry about choosing your post to rant, as most of my post applies to this whole thread, but the injection thing is bullshit. >_>

Originally Posted by Good as Gold

OK... You don't get it, do you? I'm in the Army and I haven't seen action, hopefully never will. But I understand what it is like- It's a fucking war-zone, HUMANS are trying to kill them and they must shoot back- do you think they give two shits about a dog? They were being merciful to the thing, and yes, it would have been more humane to shoot it.

There are no injections, there is hardly enough supplies to sustain them. They are going into combat without body armor against high calibre bullet rounds. You are asking for an injection for a fucking dog. It's war, there's no such thing as 'humane' in the general sense when you're killing PEOPLE every day. Hell, at least the hippies are whining about Marines killing people and not dogs...

And here's another thing- You should show them more damned respect. They're out there busting their asses and following orders, orders that some do not agree with. I don't agree with the war in Iraq, but the minute I am asked to saddle up, I will simply answer "Yes Sir!". My heart goes out to the men and women on the frontlines.

And slayer, sorry about choosing your post to rant, as most of my post applies to this whole thread, but the injection thing is bullshit. >_>

We all know it would be rough, but it does not let you do whatever you want just because some retarded terrorist is shooting at you. Animals get the shaft, just because they aren't humans.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

We all know it would be rough, but it does not let you do whatever you want just because some retarded terrorist is shooting at you. Animals get the shaft, just because they aren't humans.

No, I don't think he should have done that. It goes against the Code of Honor in that he did something morally questionable. However, CO's, and NCO's even moreso see this everyday and wave it off, after you've killed and seen friends die you HAVE to joke about death, or go nuts. I think that an overzealous CO made a huge stink out of this when a few hours of PT would have sufficed.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

Old news.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9014215AAPKhnS

It is kinda fucked up, but the explanation written in the link does make sense. I'm not saying it's right, but it is understandable how desensitized and darkened you would become after being shot at. If it truly was starving/sick and there wasn't medicine available, I suppose the humane thing to do would be to kill it the quickest way possible as to prevent prolonged suffering. He should have just shot it.

Yes, if it was just going to die from sarvation anyways, slowly and painfully (which I can believe, regarding that it was in the middle of nowhere with no food source) than he was right in killing it. But, as you said, he didn't need to "be creative."

I'm wondering if it was a lapse in judgement though. Was the dog really stray or had its mother gone out to find food or something? But I don't know much about feral dog behavior.

That seems like an over the top way to kill something. Obviously the dog had been alive up until he had found it. I wonder how it had survived all that time if it was sick and going to die anyway.