Thread: Let's Study Sacred Geometry

Originally Posted by Xei

...so are you going to derive the golden ratio or not?

I don't understand your question? I already showed through an image how to derive the golden ratio from natures first pattern, or do you want to see more in between steps?

Originally Posted by juroara

I don't understand your question? I already showed through an image how to derive the golden ratio from natures first pattern, or do you want to see more in between steps?

See, this is my point. You don't actually have any idea what you're talking about; your ideas are entirely superficial.

If you had any comprehension beyond aesthetics, you would know that the golden ratio (you must know what a ratio is, surely?) is an irrational number which can be easily found from its definition.

Do you know what its definition is?

Originally Posted by Xei

See, this is my point. You don't actually have any idea what you're talking about; your ideas are entirely superficial.

xei it is a FACT that the golden spiral is found in Sacred Geometry

the actual GEOMETRY of sacred geometry, is still, GEOMETRY

and it takes more than a few minutes to find all of the geometrical forms.

seriously. all you do is look for something to insult people with. and in this case you have this idea that I'm ignorant about sacred geometry. guess what xei, I admitted I've only been studying sacred geometry for two months. most sacred geometry gurus have been at this for YEARS.

I said I created this thread to study sacred geometry with others. not that I knew everything about it. so I don't understand why you feel the need to argue about my desire to openly study sacred geometry with others

have you ever drawn the pattern of life before?

do you realize you need to draw the pattern of life EVERY TIME you start sacred geometry?

do you know how much time that takes?

I don't have any computer programs to do it for me, so I have to draw it by hand. which I have. and if your drawing tool is off by even a tiny tiny millimeter - then you're drawing is inaccurate and some where down the line, lines that should connect don't. meaning you won't be able to find the geometrical patterns. making all your time and effort drawing these over-lapping circles useless

it doesn't help my drawing tool only uses a pencil, and the varying thickness of the pencil line as it draws on the page creates millimeter variations. the pattern of life must be mathematically precise, there is no room for error.

so hell no, I am not going to sit here and draw for hours to prove that the golden spiral is in Sacred Geometry. there is nothing to dispute here. it is in Sacred Geometry, we know this, others have shown how you find it

your'e repsect is worthless. but because im sooo kind, Ive wasted more of my time finding these images

You don't seem to have the faintest idea what you are talking about. You're using all these mystical-sounding words without a trace of comprehension.

For your benefit, the golden ratio is such that the ratio of one shorter section of a line to the longer section is equal to the ratio of that longer section to the total length of the line.

i.e. a/b = b/(a+b)

If you set a = 1 and solve it you'll get the golden number.

Originally Posted by Xei

You don't seem to have the faintest idea what you are talking about. You're using all these mystical-sounding words without a trace of comprehension.

For your benefit, the golden ratio is such that the ratio of one shorter section of a line to the longer section is equal to the ratio of that longer section to the total length of the line.

i.e. a/b = b/(a+b)

If you set a = 1 and solve it you'll get the golden number.

ohh thank you! you posted the math!


thats nice!



but so what.



I'm not going to build a building here xei, I could careless about the math of the golden ratio.

And while you may think you're making yourself look so smart, it just makes you look foolish. Because the point of Sacred Geometry has gone way over your head

the very heart of Sacred Geometry is that everything is related. Everything is connected. Unity. This is the point of Sacred Geometry. This is WHY people study it. You study Sacred Geometry if you are interested in a holistic understanding of our universe.

If someone wants to know the math of the golden ratio, they pull out a math book. If they want to know how the golden ratio is connected to the harmonics of music, Sacred Geometry is better than any math book.

you may freely post your opinion that everything is chance. however, this is not a thread to debate whether things are connected or whether things are chance.

this is instead a thread to discover how things are connected through Sacred Geometry, to gain a holistic knowledge for the mere joy of enrinching your mind. and then when you have this holistic knowledge you can apply it to either a left(scientific) or right(philosophical) brain activity.

Sacred Geometry is NOT left brained (science and mathematics)

Sacred Geometry is NOT right brained (philosophy and religion)

Sacred Geometry is BOTH and NEITHER

There is a left-brained and a right-brained approach to studying Sacred Geometry, both are very different approaches. BOTH ARE EQUALLY VALID.

One asks you to quiet your mind and meditate. One asks you to know your sciences. But BOTH persons ENJOY the holistic feeling that Sacred Geometry has to offer. This wonderfull feeling of unity. They both enjoy it. They both welcome it. Even those who take the left-brain approach would never use chance to describe what they are seeing.

There are however more right brained people studying it than left brained people.

This is not because there is no left brain approach or left brained application of it. But rather our formal education is left brained, so usually left brained people are very happy with formal education and are less likely to turn to alternative studies

The video that I posted is a left brain application of Sacred Geometry

the scientist looks at his geometrical design.......and realizes the design isn't perfect. it's missing two points. he literally adds two new points to his design. By doing so, he is theorizing that these two points are yet to be seen particles.

He even says he is using the Theory of Unification. This is Sacred Geometry.




here is the video again, for anyone!!

http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/371

Originally Posted by juroara

ohh thank you! you posted the math!


thats nice!



but so what.



I'm not going to build a building here xei, I could careless about the math of the golden ratio.

And while you may think you're making yourself look so smart, it just makes you look foolish. Because the point of Sacred Geometry has gone way over your head

the very heart of Sacred Geometry is that everything is related. Everything is connected. Unity. This is the point of Sacred Geometry. This is WHY people study it. You study Sacred Geometry if you are interested in a holistic understanding of our universe.

holism –noun Philosophy.
1. the theory that whole entities, as fundamental components of reality, have an existence other than as the mere sum of their parts.

universe - the whole world, esp. with reference to humanity: a truth known throughout the universe.

"holistic understanding of our universe" as a standalone phrase does not make sense. How can you get an understanding that everything that exists is more than the sum of itself? ANY understanding of the universe is by definition all-encompassing.

Originally Posted by juroara

If someone wants to know the math of the golden ratio, they pull out a math book. If they want to know how the golden ratio is connected to the harmonics of music, Sacred Geometry is better than any math book.

Why doesn't a music textbook work? Those do, in fact, exist. And in the ones I have seen, no Sacred Geometry shows up anywhere, unless you consider the number 2 to be somehow sacred.

Originally Posted by juroara

you may freely post your opinion that everything is chance. however, this is not a thread to debate whether things are connected or whether things are chance.

this is instead a thread to discover how things are connected through Sacred Geometry, to gain a holistic knowledge for the mere joy of enrinching your mind. and then when you have this holistic knowledge you can apply it to either a left(scientific) or right(philosophical) brain activity.

holism –noun Philosophy.
1. the theory that whole entities, as fundamental components of reality, have an existence other than as the mere sum of their parts.

Originally Posted by juroara

Sacred Geometry is NOT left brained (science and mathematics)

Sacred Geometry is NOT right brained (philosophy and religion)

Sacred Geometry is BOTH and NEITHER

There is a left-brained and a right-brained approach to studying Sacred Geometry, both are very different approaches. BOTH ARE EQUALLY VALID.

One asks you to quiet your mind and meditate. One asks you to know your sciences. But BOTH persons ENJOY the holistic feeling that Sacred Geometry has to offer. This wonderfull feeling of unity. They both enjoy it. They both welcome it. Even those who take the left-brain approach would never use chance to describe what they are seeing.

holism –noun Philosophy.
1. the theory that whole entities, as fundamental components of reality, have an existence other than as the mere sum of their parts.

If you want to attach the word "holistic" to everything in the post, please make sure you use it correctly.

Originally Posted by juroara

There are however more right brained people studying it than left brained people.

This is not because there is no left brain approach or left brained application of it. But rather our formal education is left brained, so usually left brained people are very happy with formal education and are less likely to turn to alternative studies

The video that I posted is a left brain application of Sacred Geometry

the scientist looks at his geometrical design.......and realizes the design isn't perfect. it's missing two points. he literally adds two new points to his design. By doing so, he is theorizing that these two points are yet to be seen particles.

He even says he is using the Theory of Unification. This is Sacred Geometry.

So far, there is no Theory of Unification, or as it is sometimes called, Grand Unification Theory. A Grand Unification Theory is any model that claims that all four fundamental interactions save gravity are mediated by the same field, especially at extremely high energy levels. Sure, lots of them have been proposed, but so far none of them have enough evidence to back themselves up.

Originally Posted by Licity

"holistic understanding of our universe" as a standalone phrase does not make sense. How can you get an understanding that everything that exists is more than the sum of itself? ANY understanding of the universe is by definition all-encompassing.

Why doesn't a music textbook work? Those do, in fact, exist. And in the ones I have seen, no Sacred Geometry shows up anywhere, unless you consider the number 2 to be somehow sacred.

So far, there is no Theory of Unification, or as it is sometimes called, Grand Unification Theory. A Grand Unification Theory is any model that claims that all four fundamental interactions save gravity are mediated by the same field, especially at extremely high energy levels. Sure, lots of them have been proposed, but so far none of them have enough evidence to back themselves up.

you're losing track of what Sacred Geometry is about, and you're losing track of my posts in context

I don't understand what the language barrier is here guys, but Sacred Geometry is not mystical

nor does it propose to exist outside of our natural universe

on the other hand, it proposes that it IS the geometry of our natural universe. what in our reality, is not about of our natural universe? this is one reason why I call it holistic

holistic as in:
relating to or concerned with wholes or with complete systems rather than with the analysis of, treatment of, or dissection into parts

you can apply Sacred Geometry to biology, to physics, to mathematics

but it doesn't end there!

you can also apply Sacred Geometry to art, culture, religion, philosophy, architecture, engineering (my sister has examples in her design book)

this was why I said the applications were endless, because there are both left and right brain applications. and I dont know why I have to continously repeat myself, anyone who studies Sacred Geometry it is very holistic. It naturally leads to other fields of study, it doesn't box itself up

unless I have a hearing problem, the man in the video said "Theory of Unification". I dont care if his theory is right or wrong

it was merely an example of how you can apply Sacred Geometry, it was not an argument to whether or not the theory was correct

I also stressed unified, because many scientists stress how unified our universe is - for one reason or the other. I'm not a scientist, I am not arguing for or against their ideas. I was merely pointing out that both scientists and Sacred Geometry proposed similar ideas about our universe

in other words, Sacred Geometry has not gone against our sciences in any way. but rather offer a slightly different, perspective of the big picture

This guy is totally into it. Look at his paintings

Metatron's Cube, the fruit of life combined with the platonic solids.

These patterns exist in nature for (at least) two reasons:

- They are efficient for resource allocation within the organism, promoting its survival.
- The brains of insects and higher species function on pattern recognition, promoting interest in either eating or picking the flower (whatever it is) and spreading its seeds further than it could otherwise spread (another survival trait). They are aesthetically pleasing to the eye, so they get your attention.

There's nothing mystical or magical about them, they simply arise out of natural principles of efficiency of form.

The next person to claim evolution works on random chance is getting a thunderous bitch slap. Mutations occur by random chance. Selection is the exact OPPOSITE of chance. These patterns were selected for being efficient.

awesome
I started studying it some months ago as part of my occult studies but didnt finished it

This has been very interesting.

Personally, I don't believe that geometry in and of itself is sacred. But I've always been fascinated by patterns and the drawings here are absolutely beautiful.
I could never even attempt to draw anything remotely like these because I have a slight tremor and couldn't draw a circle to save my life lol

Originally Posted by Alextanium

These patterns exist in nature for (at least) two reasons:

- They are efficient for resource allocation within the organism, promoting its survival.
- The brains of insects and higher species function on pattern recognition, promoting interest in either eating or picking the flower (whatever it is) and spreading its seeds further than it could otherwise spread (another survival trait). They are aesthetically pleasing to the eye, so they get your attention.

There's nothing mystical or magical about them, they simply arise out of natural principles of efficiency of form.

Sacred Geometry doesn't just talk about patterns only found in organisms. it also talks about your avatar

mystical is not magical. mystical is a practice of directly experiencing knowledge. that knowledge can still be scientific.

I started this thread. And not once did I use magic to describe Sacred Geometry. On the contrary, in the belief of Sacred Geometry everything is interrelated on a very complex geometrical form. A geometrical form we can study and understand

magic on the other hand implies there is something we can't understand

My high school biology teacher was one of the coolest science teachers I've ever had. We had a student teacher for a few months and he would go down to the library and read everyday during class and just let the student teach. When she left he came back and said the he had discovered the meaning of life.. I'm still not sure if he was serious or not. He said that the meaning of life was phi(the golden raito), and he explained a little about it. He even had a wooden symbol of that was painted gold and hanging in the front of the classroom.

I don't really have time to read this whole trhead or even the opening post, but I think this stuff is quite interesting. I've seen shapes similar to these while on LSD and thought about it briefly but never really came to any conclusion or done any research on it myself. Now that I look at it more closely I distinctly remember seeing that metatrons cube shape last time I tripped. I was staring out at the water talking with a friend about what God is and saw it kind of on top of my vision.

The patterns of the cosmos such as the spiral arms of galaxies conform to the laws of physics (another principle of nature). There's nothing mystical about it. They're very well understood scientific phenomena.

Don't berate Xei for attempting to educate you. You can't title a thread 'lets study Sacred Geometry' then chastise someone for STUDYING Sacred Geometry mathematically.

Sacred Geometry is BOTH and NEITHER

This is a nonsense statement. Make up your mind.

The tone of your last post was 'I want to understand the Universe through sacred geometry but don't bring your explanatory maths into this I'm too busy understanding stuff to let facts get in the way'.

has anyone ever applied sacred geometry or heard of it being applied to Lucid Dreaming?

i love this thread... sacred geomtery covers everything from subatomic particles to quatum particles to how our universe looks... and even our anatomy... from cells to the human body.

count me in... that's why many call it sacred... it unifies things existing on the largest and smallest scales by the same principles...

beachgirl...

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

This guy is totally into it. Look at his paintings

Metatron's Cube, the fruit of life combined with the platonic solids.

Gilchrist is the best! I mean..look how old he is and he knows how to youtube? thats like what..awesome

I hope he makes more videos on how to find the more complex forms

Originally Posted by juroara

I think this image might relate to the Mayan Calender for those in the knows?

i didn't search enough to find an image, but there's this;

on mayan geometry;
http://www.ethnomath.org/resources/ISGEm/067.htm

sacred geometry and the mayan calendar;
http://www.mayanmajix.com/3nn02_01_04.html

an ongoing project on sacred geometry in mayan sciences;
http://alignment2012.com/SacredGeom-Video.html

thanks for all the info juroara! i've really learnt a lot (still reading).