Thread: Let's Study Sacred Geometry

This guy is totally into it. Look at his paintings

Metatron's Cube, the fruit of life combined with the platonic solids.

These patterns exist in nature for (at least) two reasons:

- They are efficient for resource allocation within the organism, promoting its survival.
- The brains of insects and higher species function on pattern recognition, promoting interest in either eating or picking the flower (whatever it is) and spreading its seeds further than it could otherwise spread (another survival trait). They are aesthetically pleasing to the eye, so they get your attention.

There's nothing mystical or magical about them, they simply arise out of natural principles of efficiency of form.

The next person to claim evolution works on random chance is getting a thunderous bitch slap. Mutations occur by random chance. Selection is the exact OPPOSITE of chance. These patterns were selected for being efficient.

awesome
I started studying it some months ago as part of my occult studies but didnt finished it

This has been very interesting.

Personally, I don't believe that geometry in and of itself is sacred. But I've always been fascinated by patterns and the drawings here are absolutely beautiful.
I could never even attempt to draw anything remotely like these because I have a slight tremor and couldn't draw a circle to save my life lol

Originally Posted by Alextanium

These patterns exist in nature for (at least) two reasons:

- They are efficient for resource allocation within the organism, promoting its survival.
- The brains of insects and higher species function on pattern recognition, promoting interest in either eating or picking the flower (whatever it is) and spreading its seeds further than it could otherwise spread (another survival trait). They are aesthetically pleasing to the eye, so they get your attention.

There's nothing mystical or magical about them, they simply arise out of natural principles of efficiency of form.

Sacred Geometry doesn't just talk about patterns only found in organisms. it also talks about your avatar

mystical is not magical. mystical is a practice of directly experiencing knowledge. that knowledge can still be scientific.

I started this thread. And not once did I use magic to describe Sacred Geometry. On the contrary, in the belief of Sacred Geometry everything is interrelated on a very complex geometrical form. A geometrical form we can study and understand

magic on the other hand implies there is something we can't understand

My high school biology teacher was one of the coolest science teachers I've ever had. We had a student teacher for a few months and he would go down to the library and read everyday during class and just let the student teach. When she left he came back and said the he had discovered the meaning of life.. I'm still not sure if he was serious or not. He said that the meaning of life was phi(the golden raito), and he explained a little about it. He even had a wooden symbol of that was painted gold and hanging in the front of the classroom.

I don't really have time to read this whole trhead or even the opening post, but I think this stuff is quite interesting. I've seen shapes similar to these while on LSD and thought about it briefly but never really came to any conclusion or done any research on it myself. Now that I look at it more closely I distinctly remember seeing that metatrons cube shape last time I tripped. I was staring out at the water talking with a friend about what God is and saw it kind of on top of my vision.

Originally Posted by stonedape

My high school biology teacher was one of the coolest science teachers I've ever had. We had a student teacher for a few months and he would go down to the library and read everyday during class and just let the student teach. When she left he came back and said the he had discovered the meaning of life.. I'm still not sure if he was serious or not. He said that the meaning of life was phi(the golden raito), and he explained a little about it. He even had a wooden symbol of that was painted gold and hanging in the front of the classroom.

I don't really have time to read this whole trhead or even the opening post, but I think this stuff is quite interesting. I've seen shapes similar to these while on LSD and thought about it briefly but never really came to any conclusion or done any research on it myself. Now that I look at it more closely I distinctly remember seeing that metatrons cube shape last time I tripped. I was staring out at the water talking with a friend about what God is and saw it kind of on top of my vision.

Thousands of people have had these geometrical experiences. We usually just call them hallucinations.

But we have to consider the story of the Sri Yantra Mandala. How were those monks able to see the geometrical form of OM, before we had any technology to see it? What other mandalas do monks experience that we can show with technology?

This suggests the possibility, that in altered states of consciousness we can have a geometrical experience. Not just a hallucination. But an experience of the geometrical nature of our reality.

We can only sense a tiny fraction of reality. And even though we are sensing an objective reality, its a very tiny and specific perspective of reality. The human perspective.

Because of this, it's believed if you can experience the geometry of reality - you are having the most direct and the most true version of reality. After all, there is no language more universal than geometry.

If in altered states of mind people can directly experience this dazzling geometry............why can't it work the other way around? Can you meditate over Sacred Geometry and gain an experience in that way?

This is called Open Eye Meditation, and its something people have been doing for thousands of years. And hey, don't knock it till you've tried it!


"Although it is thought by some academics that open eye meditation can be intellectualized and understood without ever having experienced it, this is simply not true. It is like trying to describe to someone how to untie a complicated knot and then expect them to write instructions about it. Unless you have actually done open eye meditation regularly for a period of time, you aren't in a position to analyze it."

Or in some traditions, it's called Yantra

"The act of drawing and painting yantras teaches the mind how to concentrate, how to be one-pointed. To some people this practice of painting yantras is fascinating and absorbing, while others might not find it as interesting as doing calligraphy or singing, but creating a yantra can yield a valuable lesson. Yantra drawing requires accuracy, exactness, discipline, concentration, neatness and patience. The geometrical forms of the yantra activate the right hemisphere, which is visual and nonverbal."

The very act of making your own Mandala or Yantra, is a part of the open eye meditation process. Many mandala artists have testified to a geometrical out of body like experience, though their body was still painting.

Open Eye Meditation isn't for everyone. And most people probably prefer to just get high.

A more recent experiment is with sound. Cymantics shows us how sound produces these geometries. If the monks could experience the geometrical nature to the sound of their OM chanting, can we listen to Sacred Geometry to experience it? Some people claim you can. If the monks can, why not the rest of us?

One way or the other people have been having geometrical experiences in or around the body



Another experience thats talked about is the star tetrahedron around the human body. It's being called these days as the Merkabah.

I've only experienced hallucinations once while meditating, and I was stoned at the time. It was also more of a color distortion than anything else. Everything I saw started to change colors, mostly neon green purple pink and blue. I don't really think of this as anymore a spiritual experience than any other moment of life. This was also before I regularly practiced open eye meditation.

1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21...

While some things seemingly change...

Nothing ever-changes...

For what purpose... and to what end...?

Breathe in...

Breathe out...

Not much more semantics necessary than that.

Knowledge in...

Knowledge out...

There will be a day... a reckoning of sorts for some that cling to anything here...

That all supposed knowledge one obtains will simply fade away as plainly as one's first memory did...

But just as your breath escapes you...

It returns again...

Take solace... in going back to...

Ground ZERO.



In doing so... one remains humble to it...

'It' being this undefinable interconnecting principle to all that is...

Inexplicable... unspeakable...

Which is why I find it baffling that some proud individuals here would feel it necessary to berate others and push some arbitrary understanding of some digits and symbols forward as something more than it is...

Twisted in their thinking that knowing anything qualifies them as better or worse in any aspect of anything in this insane universe of trillions of circles spinning around one cylical undefinable point along with innumerable other circles spinning around innumerable other cyclical undefinable points.

All just are...

Let everything be...

And just...

The patterns of the cosmos such as the spiral arms of galaxies conform to the laws of physics (another principle of nature). There's nothing mystical about it. They're very well understood scientific phenomena.

Don't berate Xei for attempting to educate you. You can't title a thread 'lets study Sacred Geometry' then chastise someone for STUDYING Sacred Geometry mathematically.

Sacred Geometry is BOTH and NEITHER

This is a nonsense statement. Make up your mind.

The tone of your last post was 'I want to understand the Universe through sacred geometry but don't bring your explanatory maths into this I'm too busy understanding stuff to let facts get in the way'.

Originally Posted by Alextanium

The patterns of the cosmos such as the spiral arms of galaxies conform to the laws of physics (another principle of nature). There's nothing mystical about it. They're very well understood scientific phenomena.

so scientific phenomena can not have a geometrical form to it?

That is all Sacred Geometry proposes as far as science goes. Nothing magical, just pure geometry to go with our understanding of the natural laws

Don't berate Xei for attempting to educate you.

Anyone who is an Ass can tell you what Xei was doing. And its not called educating

This is a nonsense statement. Make up your mind.

stop trying to box Sacred Geometry as being something purely mystical, or worse, something purely mathematical.

It is both and neither and thats just the nature of the game

The tone of your last post was 'I want to understand the Universe through sacred geometry but don't bring your explanatory maths into this I'm too busy understanding stuff to let facts get in the way'.

I welcome any form of knowledge in this thread pertaining to Sacred Geometry, be it its esoteric or scientific form. Granted those sharing knowledge do so respecting the nature of Sacred Geometry.

However, thats not what happened.

Xei asked me to derive for him the golden ratio.

When you first start studying Sacred Geometry, that is all you are supposed to do. Create Natures First Pattern. Find the Flower of Life. Find Metatrons Cube. Find the Golden Spiral and so on.

That was what I did for Xei and he is the one who attacked me for answering his question




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I am tired of repeating myself, this is a Sacred Geometry thread for those who would like to Study Sacred Geometry. Myself included

However, there are two ways to study Sacred Geometry, and anyone who studies it will eventually lead to one form over the other

There is a left brained way to study it, and a right brained way to study it

And the right brained way to study it, does not require math

Originally Posted by Alextanium

The patterns of the cosmos such as the spiral arms of galaxies conform to the laws of physics (another principle of nature). There's nothing mystical about it. They're very well understood scientific phenomena.

Don't berate Xei for attempting to educate you. You can't title a thread 'lets study Sacred Geometry' then chastise someone for STUDYING Sacred Geometry mathematically.



This is a nonsense statement. Make up your mind.

The tone of your last post was 'I want to understand the Universe through sacred geometry but don't bring your explanatory maths into this I'm too busy understanding stuff to let facts get in the way'.

Very well understand yet unexplainable as to why they all follow the same form...

(1) Black,
(1) then,
(2) white are,
(3) all I see,
(5) in my infancy,
(8) red and yellow then came to be,
(5) reaching out to me,
(3) lets me see.
(2) There is,
(1) so,
(1) much,
(2) more and
(3) beckons me,
(5) to look through to these,
(8) infinite possibilities.
(13) As below so above and beyond I imagine,
(8) drawn outside the lines of reason.
(5) Push the envelope.
(3) Watch it bend.

All you've done now is reaffirmed my view that 'sacred' geometry is a load of superficial nonsense and nobody here can even define the thing.

Not to butt in, but you want them to define something in a scientific way when that is not the route they are going.

It's like asking an artist to explain his painting in mathematics...

I'm no student of sacred geometry - so don't all pounce on me at once - but it was my understanding that SG had something to do with all matter somehow being able to be reduced to one of 5 basic forms or solids (see Cusp's avatar), right down to our own DNA. (I've only read a little about this in the past, so I can't remember it all - but there's also the golden ratio thing that fits in there somehow.)

I think what's causing some contreversy here is that it was (for some reason) named "sacred" geometry - implying godlike or theism. But it may not necessarily be so. I think it just means that it's a basis or foundation to a much more complex 'world'. It's essentially what science is all about; getting down to the most fundamental principle of a theory. The ultimate being, the theory of everything (linking relativity with quantum physics).

So, whether you think it's 'sacred' or not, it is pretty convenient how the pieces fit together. Whether they solve any great mysteries about ourselves has yet to be proven.

Now, what's interesting is that this 'geometry' (at least the golden ratio) can also be applied to other things; like sound/music in the Circle of Fifths. Again, not 'sacred', but pretty cool!

I think it just means that it's a basis or foundation to a much more complex 'world'. It's essentially what science is all about; getting down to the most fundamental principle of a theory.

Except science is based on evidence wheras the platonic solids as classical elements were based on making shit up.

has anyone ever applied sacred geometry or heard of it being applied to Lucid Dreaming?

I had a dream a few weeks ago where Paul Dirac had a three dimensional black board that we could walk around in and he was drawing gauge symmetries of Lagrangians. We could twist them around to see the actual symmetries. It wasn't lucid though. I'm kinda glad it wasn't because I probably would have messed it up.

Wow you have cool dreams.

I used to have maths dreams when I was doing huge amounts to prepare for my Cambridge exams, but they were kind of unpleasant and would last into waking.

I was once unable to get out of bed because 'getting out of bed' is a single object and it doesn't ever make any mathematical sense to just write a single expression without putting it equal to anything for example 'x^2 + y^2'; and as I couldn't think of anything to put 'getting out of bed' equal to I just stayed there for hours.

Yeah maths dreams suck. :l

Originally Posted by Xei

I was once unable to get out of bed because 'getting out of bed' is a single object and it doesn't ever make any mathematical sense to just write a single expression without putting it equal to anything for example 'x^2 + y^2'; and as I couldn't think of anything to put 'getting out of bed' equal to I just stayed there for hours.

I have problems like that all the time.

Originally Posted by Xei

Yeah maths dreams suck. :l

Some of them are pretty cool. Some of them suck. It depends on if they make sense or not.

i love this thread... sacred geomtery covers everything from subatomic particles to quatum particles to how our universe looks... and even our anatomy... from cells to the human body.

count me in... that's why many call it sacred... it unifies things existing on the largest and smallest scales by the same principles...

beachgirl...

If you take the joints in your hands, and divide the lengths of each phalanx into one another you get the phi ratio. Same thing goes for hands and arms, feet and legs, the phi ration appears: 1.61803399

It's just a proportion, but the Golden mean is infinite. You will find the mean in billions of places, literally every single cell in your body. This proportion must mean something very important to creation, obviously because it is the most important proportion compared to all other possibilities in mathematics.

the Golden mean is infinite

It's less than 2.

Didn't you say that it's not infinite?

Originally Posted by Jussinlee

You will find the mean in billions of places, literally every single cell in your body.

Really? Where in a cell does the golden ratio appear?

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

This guy is totally into it. Look at his paintings

Metatron's Cube, the fruit of life combined with the platonic solids.

Gilchrist is the best! I mean..look how old he is and he knows how to youtube? thats like what..awesome

I hope he makes more videos on how to find the more complex forms