Thread: The Nonreligious Are More Intelligent

Originally Posted by DeathCell

Atheists calling superiority of intelligence over religious people just makes you look like an assclown.

Has atheism really came to the point that they need to spread propaganda or faulty correlations? Reminiscent of the church telling us to abandon our other religions for Heaven, now we must abandon religion for intelligence I assume? After all his study shows us.... lol

This is a disservice to the atheist movement.

*facepalms*

Really, I don't think I need to say anything; you basically just proved O'nus's point. Had you actually read his post, you would know that Atheists aren't calling themselves superior in intelligence, and that this is NOT propaganda. What studies are showing, time and again, is that atheists and the non-religious in general tend to be stronger in a certain way of thinking known as abstract categorical and hypothetical (ACH) thinking.

ACH Thinking

Abstract Categorical and Hypothetical (ACH) thinking is assessed in the Raven's and Weschler Similarities tests (segments of the primary IQ tests). Now while our ancestors and elders are obviously not complete Neanderthals, they were actually lacking in their scores for ACH thinking. Instead of focusing on developing independent ACH thinking, there was more focus on fundamental learning for immediate pertinent use (ie. writing, arithmetic, and reading - the three "R"'s).

In our later generations, though, we have developed this thinking and learned to become more engrossed in our creative venture. It was because of people like Dewey who encouraged pragmatic learning that encourage this ACH thinking.

Also note which conclusions O'nus draws:

Conclusions

Abstract categorical and hypothetical (ACH) thinking is rising. Atheism is rising. Intelligence is rising. Evolutionary acceptance and knowledge is rising.

It is really just that simple.

What do you think...?

Next time, I recommend you actually read the post before commenting.

Originally Posted by Mario92

*facepalms*

Really, I don't think I need to say anything; you basically just proved O'nus's point. Had you actually read his post, you would know that Atheists aren't calling themselves superior in intelligence, and that this is NOT propaganda. What studies are showing, time and again, is that atheists and the non-religious in general tend to be stronger in a certain way of thinking known as abstract categorical and hypothetical (ACH) thinking.

The studies are propaganda. Nothing but.
Thinly veiled correlations, used in conjunction with a specific objective.


You can't just assume these two things are related without evidence.

Next time, I recommend you actually read the post before commenting.

Next time, I recommend you actually understand the post before commenting. And perhaps stepping back and looking at this terrible use of data.

I'm not quite sure who you think you are mario, but perhaps you should go back to the pipe you climbed out of.

You talk about atheism as if it's a single institution.

It isn't. Atheists are individuals and most of those individuals don't see any point in arguing about the correlation between intelligence and faith.

I quite understand that, but atheism as a whole is being dis-serviced by movements like this. And regardless of it being a very individual path, it's not necessarily viewed at that by the rest of the population. Just like people group all groups of Christians together... not necessarily fair, but reality.

The last thing this topic and others like it will do is convince people to become an atheist, so if your goal is to alienate yourself from the rest of society and attain no new members continue on this path.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

The human spirit cannot be found in academia. It can only be found in humans. The easiest place to start is with yourself. Do you read a book in order to learn what its like to see, or do you simply open your eyes?

Haha, wow.

It's really that simple.

These are the most useless posts possible. You think IQ is the best measurement of human intelligence? That is ridiculous. IQ tests only apply to one part of the brain, left brain. Precise, exact, linear. What about the right part of the brain...EQ emotional intelligence, abstract thinking creativity?


How is it that most of these countries are seen on an IQ average as close to mentally handicapped....wtf? Obviously if other countries citizens not as proficient in some of the sub tests within the IQ tests will do horrible, their education system isn't as good, their left brained education system. There is a reason the U.S was not following the line in that graph, we're more educated, we have more resources, but we are still relatively religious.

There will never be an accurate way to measure intelligence. You need a whole brain test and not a half brain test.

Originally Posted by C-Fonz

These are the most useless posts possible. You think IQ is the best measurement of human intelligence? That is ridiculous. IQ tests only apply to one part of the brain, left brain. Precise, exact, linear. What about the right part of the brain...EQ emotional intelligence, abstract thinking creativity?


How is it that most of these countries are seen on an IQ average as close to mentally handicapped....wtf? Obviously if other countries citizens not as proficient in some of the sub tests within the IQ tests will do horrible, their education system isn't as good, their left brained education system. There is a reason the U.S was not following the line in that graph, we're more educated, we have more resources, but we are still relatively religious.

There will never be an accurate way to measure intelligence. You need a whole brain test and not a half brain test.

That's an ignorant oversimplification of the lateralization of the functions of the brain.