Thread: Homosexuality, how can it not be considered an abnormality?

Originally Posted by Thatperson

You seem to be unable to distinguish a medical abnormailty, from something which is harmful to an individual during his/her lifetime.

I'm gonna try one more approach. You say that homosexuality/Asexuality is not a flaw because the homosexuals involved live happy fulfilling lifes, with no physical/emotional/mental health issues, therefore it is not a flaw. But humans are hardwired to desire certain things, food, warmth, the opposite sex just to name a few. If someone doesn't desire these things then it's fine, they're happy to live without them, but if they don't then it's still a flaw. They Should desire these thing (I don't mean moral should), if they don't then something has gone wrong somewhere, however benign it may be.

Don't you see that this whole debate is basically meaningless. You say humans are hardwired... with that statement, as I've said before you create a subjective, an artificial concept which is just that, a concept. You then defend that concept which is based on other concepts and so on. Nobody is right here, it's all just another world view one can take. The important discussion should be which point of view is correct to take in a moral, rational society. If you want to debate solely whose concept is better, than that is as good as a debate between a Muslim and a Christian on whose god is true. It's all relative and most likely a futile discussion, like fighting over a favourite colour.

You say that humans are hardwired to be heterosexual... Well they obviously aren't, since homosexuals are humans and they are not hardwired that way...

You say they should desire the opposite sex... why? Is there some sort of universal law that says that? No. They are perfectly natural in every sense. Their brains are OK... why? Because if we live in the universe science describes, than that happened naturally for actual causal reasons. The same causal reasons that make paedophiles or heterosexuals.

Nobody is taking away your right to think of them as flawed. But you should also know that nobody also gave you the "right" or ability to bend the universe to your world view. (Unless this is your dream and you are god.)

So the moral of the story is:

Are homosexuals flawed? In a certain biological sense, yes, but only due to the norms, purpose and characterizations "we" usually perceive and project onto the world. And this is as far as I go.

Do they have to be flawed (meaning, do we have to consider them flawed), no they don't. So why bring it up? The only people, usually - so you don't accuse me of accusing you of homophobia - are the ones who hate them. So unless you have some emotional motivation (or rational, if you have some eugenics idea to help human evolution) then I don't see any kind of reason one should consider them flawed.