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      1. No (and lol at the hand joke)
      2. No, well it depends why they are abstaining, if they are abstaining out of choise then no, if they abstain because they have zero sexual desire then yes.
      3. No
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      Thanks for answering, but what are your reasons for those answers? Your premise regarding homosexuality is about lack of reproduction.
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      Thatperson, I think we were getting to the bottom of your idea, but you dodged again.

      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
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      1. Are masturbators abnormal?
      2. Are abstinent people abnormal?
      3. Are heterosexuals who use birth control abnormal?

      I think you ignored my earlier post. Please respond to this one. If the Christian right can't give consistent answers to those questions, I think they need to drop it about homosexualilty.
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      1. No (and lol at the hand joke)
      2. No, well it depends why they are abstaining, if they are abstaining out of choise then no, if they abstain because they have zero sexual desire then yes.
      3. No
      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Thanks for answering, but what are your reasons for those answers? Your premise regarding homosexuality is about lack of reproduction.
      Well?

      Quote Originally Posted by Thatperson View Post
      If 100% of the population were hetrosexual, that would be fine.
      If 100% of the population were homosexual, then we'd have a bit of a problem.
      If 100% of the population were abstinent, we would have a problem. If 100% of the population used effective birth control, we'd have a problem. Do you see what I am getting at here? Please clear this up.
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      1. I don't see why you asked, in what way do you see masturbation as deviating from the standard. We don't have genes that make us avoid masturbation, if we did then it would be abnormal, but seeing as masturbation does not go against what our genes tell us we should be then no,

      2. Abstainers, last time i gave a sort of unsure answer, they may be socially abnormal, I wouldn't say they are, but that would be another discussion. Medically/biologically however, no they are not abnormal, they maintain a sexual desire (in most cases) but CHOOSE to abstain, homosexuals do not CHOOSE to be gay but abstainers do. That's what seperates the two

      3. Again no, the three things you listed (Masturbation, abstention, use of birth control) are all choices, and thus they are not medical abnormailities, you may argue that it's socially abnormal but as I said that's another discussion.


      EDIT: I was going to make a point that bisexuality is 'normal' but i 'll discuss this later.
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