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      Rates/Chances of getting sleep paralysis.

      I hadn't been in any situation as sleep paralysis before so I have no idea about how it feels. I want to be ready for this so I have some questions that I want to share and discuss with you.

      1) Can you get SP from both LD and non LD at the same rate? For instance, when you have a nightmare and you really want to wake up but you get SP will this happen regardless if your dream is lucid or non lucid? I mean, again, that you don't have to be a lucid dreamer to get into SP right? It can happen pretty much the same as it can on a non lucid dreamer. This is actually what I mean.

      2) Is it as scary as most people claim it to be? If yes can you change your SP from a nightmare into a dream? Or simply ignore it?

      - I have searched the forums here on how to deal with SP and I have found some techniques that I intent to use in such case. But the problem is, WHEN can I use them? If I get any SP incident before sleep, I heard that it is a great way of getting into a LD.

      3) Since SP is something like a hologram, it cannot harm you right? If you manage to stop your heartbeats by breathing techniques will you manage to get rid of those nasty hallucinations (if any)?

      As I mentioned at first SP was a main problem that I wouldn't want to get LD, I have heard lots of bad comments about it and I kinda hesitate LDing on my own because of that. Even my father has been into a SP before, he told me that it was an awful experience.

      SP is the main hindrance of not wanting to LD.

      One last question: If you get into SP, for how long will it last?

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      I practise Deild and I barely even notice the sp. When inducing a Lucid dream the amount of paralysis and hallucinations vary completely from person to person. The strongest you will probably ever encounter it is if you wake up still paralyzed (which is extremely rare). I find SP to be a really enjoyable sensation, along with the vibrations I feel, I also become exremely euphoric and excited. Sometimes I like to slightly induce SP before sleep because the feeling is so relaxing.
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      Oh god at last something encouraging. You sir have made my day.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      The strongest you will probably ever encounter it is if you wake up still paralyzed (which is extremely rare).
      I've encountered that, when I was a kid and I had some nightmares.

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      i wonder sometimes when people talk about sleep paralysis if they're talking about different things. I've experienced what i understand to be your classical, textbook sp a handful of times and don't see how it could be enjoyable for anybody.

      in my experience true sleep paralysis is always coupled with a sense of panic, inability to breathe well, and a feeling of immense weight or pressure on the body. I have been in sleep paralysis, known i was in it, and still experienced all of these symptoms. From what i remember (it has been years since i've done any reading about it) these are all typical symptoms of the condition.

      maybe when i hear "sleep paralysis," i'm thinking of the pathological condition when people are actually just talking about the transition period between waking and dreaming? I don't know. But in my opinion, yes, it is always unpleasant and i avoid it at all costs... which is easy enough: i just don't sleep on my back.

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      Quote Originally Posted by zombiesarebad View Post
      i wonder sometimes when people talk about sleep paralysis if they're talking about different things. I've experienced what i understand to be your classical, textbook sp a handful of times and don't see how it could be enjoyable for anybody.

      in my experience true sleep paralysis is always coupled with a sense of panic, inability to breathe well, and a feeling of immense weight or pressure on the body. I have been in sleep paralysis, known i was in it, and still experienced all of these symptoms. From what i remember (it has been years since i've done any reading about it) these are all typical symptoms of the condition.

      maybe when i hear "sleep paralysis," i'm thinking of the pathological condition when people are actually just talking about the transition period between waking and dreaming? I don't know. But in my opinion, yes, it is always unpleasant and i avoid it at all costs... which is easy enough: i just don't sleep on my back.
      Actually the only reason you feel this is because you are afraid of the unknown, I on the otherhand induce SP knowing that it will be a good experience. Secondly most people won't even ever reach full SP when they are inducing a dream. If you bothered for one second to study at what SP can do to you, you would have realised its completely harmless. Just because some people hate the sensation of falling for example doesn't mean others won't get a thrill out of it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      Actually the only reason you feel this is because you are afraid of the unknown, I on the otherhand induce SP knowing that it will be a good experience. Secondly most people won't even ever reach full SP when they are inducing a dream. If you bothered for one second to study at what SP can do to you, you would have realised its completely harmless. Just because some people hate the sensation of falling for example doesn't mean others won't get a thrill out of it.
      Of course you're absolutely right that it's harmless, but for most people it takes a little while to get over the somewhat instinctive feeling of panic associated with SP (due to it feeling so unnatural), so just knowing it's perfectly normal does not immediately lead to it being the exciting/relaxing feeling it should be.

      Although I now try to seize every opportunity to WILD I can possibly get, my immediate reaction upon getting SP is still to try and break out of it (which I quickly ignore thankfully).

      Quote Originally Posted by zombiesarebad
      maybe when i hear "sleep paralysis," i'm thinking of the pathological condition when people are actually just talking about the transition period between waking and dreaming? I don't know. But in my opinion, yes, it is always unpleasant and i avoid it at all costs... which is easy enough: i just don't sleep on my back.
      The last two times I had SP I was lying on my side. You go into SP every time you fall asleep; your sleeping position has nothing to do with it. What we're talking about here is being conscious of it. Anyway, I get the same sensations as you do but am able to focus on other things like hypnagogic imagery meaning, as dutchraptor said, it can be barely noticeable.

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      I've tried inducing a WILD. I have heard some binaural beats that I have added on my mobile and I didn't move at all. After a while, I felt a shake, something like an earthquake but in a small density. My heart was pulsing really fast. I know I could break out of it if I wanted to but I didn't. I wanted this to happen so I kept on going. I wasn't scared at all, it was pretty funny, you know shaking like that. Suddenly, I felt my right hand really heavy, I was like WOOH I am into SP (I wasn't that sure though). So I've tried not to make any negative thoughts. I don't know about you guys, but if those were symptoms of SP then it wasn't scary at all. I didn't LD though, my f*ucking sister started yelling for a reason that I didn't know so I woke up.
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      Well done, thats it . In my experience SP has never gotten any stonger than what you described.

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      If that is, then I think I am kinda close to LD. Though, I first need to record my dreams because it would be really useless LDing without remembering anything after. Still I have some doubts but I shall see what will happen next.

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      guys, listen. I think you are missing my point. I realize that paralysis occurs every time you sleep... i'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the condition where you are awake but unable to move or breathe well. I do realize it's harmless, and i'm not sure why you assume i don't know that. I'm just trying to help the OP by saying it CAN be very unpleasant. Do a simple google search and you'll see that: the results overwhelmingly describe sp as a negative experience. You'll also see it's associated with narcolepsy, sleep apnea, and various hereditary sleep disorders.

      that being said, i don't doubt the possibility of it being pleasant. That's why i was sure to insert the words "in my experience." It seems that there must be varying degrees of SP. I have experienced what might be considered "light" paralysis, which may be what you guys are talking about... barely noticeable, the body feels heavy, and you're about to drift off to sleep. I've also experienced full on sleep paralysis, where i am awake but unable to move. In this state, my mind shows me what it wants to and i have no control over it. In fact, it feels like an outside force is doing it to me... not true, of course, but you can understand why some more superstitious people would think so.

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      I've had a few SP from waking out of a LD. I've always felt a demon like creature on top of me shaking me, I'm used to it now and you kind of just realize it's not real. I've almost learned to enjoy it.
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      That is a perfect way to discribe how my SP feels.

      Quote Originally Posted by Hopsin View Post
      I've had a few SP from waking out of a LD. I've always felt a demon like creature on top of me shaking me, I'm used to it now and you kind of just realize it's not real. I've almost learned to enjoy it.

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