Thread: What is the evidence that dreams are produced by the brain ?

Originally Posted by astralboy

dutchraptor

What you say is very beautiful in theory... but scientist are humans and they have beliefs and egos. For some of them, they can't believe or imagine something indepedant of the brain, so they will ignore all experiences of so much people and consider this as imagination. But what is sure it is that science is so much ignorant about so much important things. Our science is the result of scientists ... so what you call science can be not true. What they say today can be wrong tomorrow. It look like you consider as something "all knowing" or something like "god"... Never forget that scientists are humans who have beliefs (limited ones) others are more open and there is scientist even who can agree with what I say. But the fact is undeniable... There is no evidence that the mind and dreams originate in the physical brain. When something is undeniable like "The earh is not flat" you can't argue.

Some of scientists are atheist for exemple, and they say that there is no god, and they take it as a fact. But when you are really scientific you can't say "there is no god", or even "there is god". There is no Evidence. It is a belief. Like I said ... So much things are unknown to science, but very few people say it. And when something is unknown or when we don't know... we should be neutral.

aaaaand you forgot about peer reviewed studies. The scientific community created peer reviewed studies precisely for that reason. If a scientist can't provide strong evidence than what he says isn't accepted. Everything is influenced to an extent by a humans own opinions, but not near as much as you are making it out to be.

Let me give you an example. When we discovered the first evidence of the higgs boson back in 2011, no one was ever told, because the 99.995 percent accuracy they achieved had to be refined, and refined, and then refined again. In the start of 2012 the lhc had logged over 300 trillion proton collisions, and it still took six months before they were sure of the higgs existence. They settled for 1 in 3.5 million chance of error. 8000 scientists worked together to achieve that. The current human brain project, and the human genome project have a combined workforce of somewhere around that number too. If you think some odd biased opinions are going skew the result of projects like these (the ones that produce the massive results) then you are severely delusional.