Thread: Why such an evil during SP?

You might get some better help elsewhere in the forum, but here it goes.

Sleep Paralysis is when you exit sleep and are stuck, Rem Atonia is the natural process of your body shutting down so you do not act out in Dreams.
Since you are awake during this process, our body hallucinates as it can't move. It struggles to find out what's wrong, why can't it move ETC. This is where the imagination sets in. Oh no! Aliens! They have pinned me down. Demons! They must be attacking! I know they are, I can't move!.

I never get the scary stuff, thankfully. I once got an evil laughter coming from afar, normally my ear just beeps.

This is just me though, there could be something deeper then this but I doubt it.

Ya its mostly just hallucinations and whatnot =P then again there is the talk of the "night stalkers" or the evil beings that walk around on the border of reality and sleep and intervien with people's sleep.

Being paralyzed is frightening... Is it too much of a jump to say since you are unnerved, you think up things even more frightening?

For instance, say you are in a dark, creeky basement. An unsettling place. If your imagination is quite active, you can dredge up some frightening thoughts.

Originally Posted by Delphinus

Is it too much of a jump to say since you are unnerved, you think up things even more frightening?

Definitely not. I know that during sleep paralysis nothing bad will happen to me, but that doesn't stop it from being hella scary from time to time.

Originally Posted by hellohihello

Sleep Paralysis is when you exit sleep and are stuck, Rem Atonia is the natural process of your body shutting down so you do not act out in Dreams.
Since you are awake during this process, our body hallucinates as it can't move. It struggles to find out what's wrong, why can't it move ETC. This is where the imagination sets in. Oh no! Aliens! They have pinned me down. Demons! They must be attacking! I know they are, I can't move!.

What he said. I like to call it Desperate Rationalization. The mind needs to find a reason. If you're going to blame it on an external source, anything that prevents you from moving just can't have good intentions, so you perceive it as evil.

Of course that doesn't explain the evil presences in my room when I wake up and don't have SP...

From my one and only SP I can tell that it's not that much of a scary experience, I would even call it fun ^_^. I just heard a *BEEP* noise and got a little spooked that I was paralyzed. The fun thing was the feeling when you would want to move, but your hands would "bounce" back to to your "body". If you ever encounter an "evil" "being" in a SP just try to act neutral against it, like it's not even there. Also you should repeat "It's just my mind pulling tricks on me" and don't get scared. It's a thing that happens every night, just that you aren't awake when it does . It's NOT scary if you want it to not BE scary!

Yeh basically you're naturally frightened when you wake up in a dark room and can't move... this then manifests in your mind with the connection of fear that you are already feeling... also your mind is in a state that can hallucinate which is a bad combination lol.

The best thing to do is close your eyes, take deep breaths and remember that you're only having SP, somtimes when I do this I tend to drift off to sleep and if your lucky you'll have a Lucid dream!!

I also heard that a being in your room would just stand there, in your room. They say he is there so you won't be able to cross the "bridge" or the "otherside". So he is kinda like a guardian.

I also experience that "evil" presence during sleep paralysis...which is why I DREAD having an episode.

Originally Posted by dreaman

I also heard that a being in your room would just stand there, in your room. They say he is there so you won't be able to cross the "bridge" or the "otherside". So he is kinda like a guardian.

Originally Posted by Saturnine

I also experience that "evil" presence during sleep paralysis...which is why I DREAD having an episode.

Guys, think about it for a sec. If you are scared during SP, your hallucinations will work on your expectations, so, if you still believe that it's some evil demon, alien, etc.... then you'll likely hallucinate it. I've never had a full SP before, but, I know for a fact that when I do, I'll keep repeating to myself that its only SP and there is nothing to be scared of

In my one incident that seemed like SP or at least close, I didn't hear/feel any demon/alien/etc. I just heard footsteps, whispers, and someone opening a coke can. I suppose I might not have gone deep enough in.

Don't feel too safe tho during a paralysis...real abducting aliens exist...

Originally Posted by Pelvis

Don't feel too safe tho during a paralysis...real abducting aliens exist...

lol at bolded part, evidence?

Originally Posted by BigFan

lol at bolded part, evidence?

Stay on topic...

Originally Posted by stasik50

When you are having a sleep paralysis, why is there always an "evil presence" - an old hag, a demon, or some other evil being. Why during an SP, you never have good things happen to you?

I say, because we have imaginations, they spin verything quickly out of control.
I imagine my brains logic to be quick to jump to conclusion, as such "I hear a noise, must be a voice! A voice from a monster! A demon from hell here to take my soul! "
While very much a dramatization, it's an example.

Originally Posted by no-name

Stay on topic...

umm, I didn't really go off topic, because, some people due believe that something happens to them during SP and its not the mind playing tricks

Originally Posted by killguta

From my one and only SP I can tell that it's not that much of a scary experience, I would even call it fun ^_^. I just heard a *BEEP* noise and got a little spooked that I was paralyzed. The fun thing was the feeling when you would want to move, but your hands would "bounce" back to to your "body". If you ever encounter an "evil" "being" in a SP just try to act neutral against it, like it's not even there. Also you should repeat "It's just my mind pulling tricks on me" and don't get scared. It's a thing that happens every night, just that you aren't awake when it does . It's NOT scary if you want it to not BE scary!

Since it's only occurred for you once, you wouldn't really know all that much about it, would you? Be careful judging your one and only experience to be rule, as you may find a nasty surprise next time. But you are still right about the bouncy thing. It feels really cool.

Regular sleep paralysis for me is not that scary yet. It's just a feeling of not being able to move anything and when I struggle there is a huge vibration in my head, like a dozen cell phones vibrating in my brain.

However what I like to call "Dream paralysis" is what I find terrifying. It's a combination of false awakening with lucid dream with being in sleep paralysis. That NEVER ends well.

Im not sure.

Honestly even though I always know that I'm just in sleep paralysis,
(Because I have a chronic SP problem that only got worse since I started practicing LDing -_-) It still gives me bad hallucinations sometimes.

In fact, the hallucinations only started after I started trying to practice LD.
I used to get SP all the time by accident, and the only hallucination would be I'd find it harder to breathe, and honestly that's probably cause my face was in the pillow and I couldn't move it. I'd get it sometimes like twice a night, it was ridiculous. Now after learning about LD, I get it like 3~4 times and its insanely frequent unless I just smoked a doob or something. And the hallucinations are more terrifying. Annnd the majority of this happens when I'm not trying to LD at all.

For instance, last time I hallucinated a bunch of demonic voices were yelling in my ear, like 5 of 'em. At the same time, someone was snaking their hand around my waist like they were trying to hug me and I pretty much shit ten bricks. Even though I know 100% that its a hallucination, it bugs me anyway. I'm getting better at changing the hallucination but sometimes I don have the mental strength to because I'm too busy trying to free my body ;_;


I hate SP.

Thanks for all your replies, they were all helpful

I've had a couple of SP only so I'm not an expert (although I used to have a recurring nightmare that shared a lot of characteristics with what you people are describing). The first time, my eyes were open and I hallucinated that I was lying at the bottom of the sea (as if my room had sunk) by a treasure chest and there were little fish swimming by. I remember thinking, "this is pretty awesome" and wanting to reach out but being paralized then went back to sleep. The second time was being in complete darkness and feeling something was alive in the room and being a bit worried.

Honestly, I hope that's as bad as it will ever get

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Of course that doesn't explain the evil presences in my room when I wake up and don't have SP...

They call it a "wife", scary things

OT,
I don't think threads like these help, people read them and expect to hear evil beings as a result (I found that a problem with controlling LDs too, I was expecting things to be difficult and thus they were). Maybe we should start an initiative to inform those new to LDing that during SP they will experience the moans of sexy women! It'd make the process a whole lot more fun

It seems that my SP cycle has come round again, over the past few days I've had various false awakenings and very low form LD's... the other night I had a pretty horrible SP.

I was falling into SP and I heard a noise like a fly was in the room buzzing round my head and as it landed on my chest the noise changed to a very high pitched drome (the usual noise) As this noise changed i felt and thought to myself that it was like an alien tracker had locked onto me and now had me under paralysis which got my heart racing more than ever!

I tryed to calm myself and use the roll out technique to get out of my body.. I was then standing next to my leather chair in my room (dreaming), the room was still dark but there was a light in the centre of my vision, I then looked at myself in bed and once again there was a central light.. I then realised that this light was because my eyes where open in bed and the moon light comming thru the window was actually what i was seeing.

I kept drifting into/hallucintaing images of various things but no propper LD, this SP felt like it lasted nearly 30 mins and I kept mysellf up till nearly 6 oclock in the morning watching flims because I was scared to go back to bed!!

I also admit.. I HATE SP!!

SP being always scary is a gross exaggeration.

I am a living proof of that, and I mean a real proof. Certainly had SPs that weren't in the least scary. Especially back in time when I didn't know how they're called and that they're supposed to be scary. I was paralyzed, worried over inability to move and desperately trying to do it, but not scared. Sometimes during such occurences I felt great pressure that others describe as "an old hag", but was not scared of it. I can swear that to you sincerely.

Truth is, if you get scared once, you associate this fear with similar experiences and drag it into them automatically. No matter how psychologically contrived it sounds, it's the only explanation why I personally started to have scary SPs only after I became scared once, and had no scary ones prior to that. For me that's proof, no matter what people say about SP being "chemically" scary, hinting that it's inevitable. People who say this either never experienced it, or got scared the first time and then never had non-scary SPs.

The only other possibility is that it's me who's wrong here, it's possible if I confuse SP with something else. I tend to have "astral projections", and maybe, just maybe I'm wrong about where SP starts\ends and "astral-starting" sensations. But I doubt it, because of having felt "pressure", visions, a freezing sensation, and all such things that are associated with SP. Besides, SP mostly happens after the LD gets ended, and astral-starting sensations mostly happen before.

Originally Posted by Advantageous Noodle

However what I like to call "Dream paralysis" is what I find terrifying. It's a combination of false awakening with lucid dream with being in sleep paralysis. That NEVER ends well.

Ugh, I second this! My worse SP experiences were like this, and it honestly made me question what was real and what wasn't. I haven't had one in awhile now and I try to avoid discussing it in case it happens.....erg.

Originally Posted by rockit2themoon

I try to avoid discussing it in case it happens

But you just did