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      Unhappy I cant differ reality from the dream world

      i realy see this as a huge problem. here are some example's of the consequences.

      first of all i never know if i am dreaming or not. this may sound strange but look, today i almost woke up but my last dream was about me checking if i still had the 60 dollar my mom gave me. i checked it and i didnt got it then i woke up. the first thing i asked was mom did you gave me 60 dollars yesterday. she said yes why? did you lost it?

      know i aint sure if i realy lost it or not i might still be dreaming...

      also reality check dont work anymore i grabbed my nose closed my mouth and couldnt breath. my hands look completly normal no strange things occur. am i dreaming?

      i just cant seem to differ reality from my dream world i also cant lucid dream anymore because of it does any one has been trough anything similar?

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      To be honest I think that can be a mental dissorder. If it persists you should consult a medical doctor.

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      I read a stephen laberge book and he said the only people who shouldnt lucid dream are people who cant differ reality from dreams. Im not saying you shouldnt lucid dream but you should think about getting checked out

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      i am already diagnosed for some mental problems like ,PDD-NOS,ADD also i cant understand 90% of humanity and they dont understand me. i guess i just think/am diffrent. but i am sure i can get some benefits out of this also i wont try stupid things like trying to fly in wat apears to be real life to only find out it is indeed real life. if it persist i would go and see a doctor i guess....

      also if you remember/know i would like to hear the reason why poeple with who cant differ reality from dreams shouldnt LD
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      Because they can go and think they are dreaming an do something stupid. Say you wake up and do a reality check. Then you though you woke up but actually have fallen asleep and are in a FA. Yes this has happened to me. Durring the FA I really woke up but didn't realise it at first. If you have trouble diferentiating between waking life and dreams that would be confusing. And you might wind up stabbing your friend thing they are a dream character.

      but if you go from dream/waking/dreaming/waking very quickly it could be bad.

      I'm not saying you would but I could happen. And thts when you get locked up in a mental facility for life.

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      The differentiation between dreams and the waking world is similar to the natural ability to tell that your reflection is you and not a seperate person. If someone doesnt differentiate the mirror, they are schizophrenic. I think you should seriously think about seeing a doctor about this, until then you should probably stop trying to lucid dream.
      "Be patient, for the world is broad and wide." -Shakespeare

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      Quote Originally Posted by Waking View Post
      The differentiation between dreams and the waking world is similar to the natural ability to tell that your reflection is you and not a seperate person. If someone doesnt differentiate the mirror, they are schizophrenic. I think you should seriously think about seeing a doctor about this, until then you should probably stop trying to lucid dream.
      i think i found a solution for this problem. i found a way to differ reality from dreaming by realy trying to move objects or things i can only do while lucid (not jump of a scyscraper to see if i could fly kinda things ) the only smaller problems that rest are my dream memories are just as real as my normal memories. last time i said sorry to my friend because in a dream i broke his bike, he was like wtf are you talking about. i said joking

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kahiko View Post
      i think i found a solution for this problem. i found a way to differ reality from dreaming by realy trying to move objects or things i can only do while lucid (not jump of a scyscraper to see if i could fly kinda things ) the only smaller problems that rest are my dream memories are just as real as my normal memories. last time i said sorry to my friend because in a dream i broke his bike, he was like wtf are you talking about. i said joking
      Kahiko I really think you should just stop focusing on dreaming. It will only get worse the more you focus on it. If you stop LDing and stop writing in a DJ and use a mantra saying, "I don't remember dreams" you should be good. Seriously I'm not trying to be a jerk but I just don't think it is safe.

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      You can continue to lucid dream....I had similar problems with lucid dreaming. I had this cloud of doubt that I may be dreaming and a hazy perception was a result of it. Very disturbing because the mind went inward and stopped treating reality as reality...kinda like losing one's mind and having no control over it cause it's too into the idea of dreaming. I solved it by treating reality as reality....I don't do reality checks and use MILD instead or a light cue or some other tool (Objectivity as opposed to Subjectivity). MILD is only when you are about to sleep so it's more effective than doing reality checks during the day and assuming you are dreaming. If the mind is subjected to this kind of false affirmation aka brain washing for too long it will get used to it and get passive and you get what you got....disorder or no disorder it will still affect the mind. So stop the checks and start treating reality as reality and use a tool or an objectively quantifiable method to lucid dream.

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      Also when you go into Lucid dreams part of you is awake. In other words your brain is not getting the much needed rest it needs. It would be best to limit when you go into lucid dreaming mode.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Diamondec View Post
      Also when you go into Lucid dreams part of you is awake. In other words your brain is not getting the much needed rest it needs. It would be best to limit when you go into lucid dreaming mode.
      Sorry I dont think thats quite right. As iv read from a few books and from what a lot of people have said on here I beleive you get all the rest you need. I think its hardly different from a non lucid dream.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ferret View Post
      Sorry I dont think thats quite right. As iv read from a few books and from what a lot of people have said on here I beleive you get all the rest you need. I think its hardly different from a non lucid dream.
      You are right I don't know that for sure. However, from personal experience I know that I am normally still tired after having a Lucid dream. So maybe I am wrong still it could hurt to try not to have Lucid dreams for awhile especially if you are having 'side effects?' Like restlessness, tiredness, or have trouble determining reality from dream.

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      It sounds to me like you would be better off with a poor dream recall. That way your dreams won't interrupt your memories. But at the same time, if your memories are muddled anyway then maybe having lucid skills would help you differentiate between reality and dreams because of the reasons that you mentioned... Honestly, none of us are trained to know how to respond to these scenarios. My parents are, I could ask them if you wanted. And I am not trying to creep you out but this is one of the major symptom of dissociative disorders- such as dementia, identity disorder, multiple personality, and psychological amnesia. You very well may not have any of these, but this could be a warning sign that it is starting.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Diamondec View Post
      Also when you go into Lucid dreams part of you is awake. In other words your brain is not getting the much needed rest it needs. It would be best to limit when you go into lucid dreaming mode.
      This is false, whether lucid or not, your body is still in REM sleep. REM sleep is the only phase of sleep that people actually need. Look up monophasic and polyphasic sleep cycles for more information on REM conservation.
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      Quote Originally Posted by spockman View Post
      It sounds to me like you would be better off with a poor dream recall. That way your dreams won't interrupt your memories. But at the same time, if your memories are muddled anyway then maybe having lucid skills would help you differentiate between reality and dreams because of the reasons that you mentioned... Honestly, none of us are trained to know how to respond to these scenarios. My parents are, I could ask them if you wanted. And I am not trying to creep you out but this is one of the major symptom of dissociative disorders- such as dementia, identity disorder, multiple personality, and psychological amnesia. You very well may not have any of these, but this could be a warning sign that it is starting.
      I brought this up to my parents, who are both in the psychological field. They both highly encourage you getting checked out. Having worked in the field, they know that catching things early can prevent them from advancing. But it is difficult to cure psych problems after they have developed fully.
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