alright, thanx. yeah i've read books about the tibetan dream yogis. super cool skill! really impressive stuff. i've tried but always failed and found dream yoga to rigorous. largely in part due to previous success with regular methods like MILD, WILD, etc. so when a tougher method doesn't yeild quick results and the easier ones do i get frustrated. but i practice meditation as a separate thing from lucid dream work and i figure i could combine it with current techniques and not do the whole super dedicated dream yoga stuff. but yeah i like your idea that you don't have to go sooo deep into it but can still benefit from simple awareness. any specific methods you find to work well?