Thread: Lucid Dreaming Withing A Lucid Dream? Possible?

Don't think so.
A dream within a dream is not possible, when you sleep in a dream the other dream just ends. (What i am trying to say there are no layers)
Propably your mind just took those effects to the next dream, to make it feel like real.

Well, it sounds like you weren't lucid in the first part of the dream, otherwise you wouldn't have tried to get lucid at that point. And if you continued you could have gotten lucid or stayed lucid.

But I do believe you can have dreams within dreams. I have had several dreams where I have gotten lucid by doing a "WILD" within the dream (similar to what you experienced). I went on to becoming lucid, then having a false awakening, and then going back to my original dream. I'm sure it's all a continuation of one dream (I'm not really sure what "layers" means). But I have found that that is one way to become lucid.

Sorry, if I did explain it clearly.
When the second dream starts, the first dream stops. Mind remembers the first dream.
So, when second dream ends, mind creates the first one again and it will feel like you just woke up from the second dream.
But that is just my theory and I believe you are more experienced than me.
( I'll hope someone experienced than me can explain this.)

I've done this quite a few times. I've tried to WILD in both non-lucid and lucid dreams. If I have a particularly good night of lucid dreaming, I will sometimes get long strings of false awakenings and WILD attempts. I will have a chain of dreams about trying to lucid dream, writing in my dream journal, waking up to use the bathroom, ect. It can get really confusing.

I've always had 'dream within a dream' experiences, I had my first flying dream from WILDing in a non-lucid dream Though many would tell you that they don't exist.

Thanks for the info you guys! ^_^

Once in a non LD, i went back to bed so it was a false awakening and i tried to WILD and the WILD worked within seconds so I thought i had just mastered WILD'ing, however then i actually woke up and learned that I dreamt the whole thing. I don't believe in dream layers, if you fall asleep in a dream with the intent of going into another dream, your mind will just create another dream scene because its a dream and your physical eyes aren't actually closing but if you expect something to happen, it very well might just happen, if you get what I'm trying to say.

Well, you can't really dream-within a dream as said before (No layers) but the mental representation is still there, yeah it is possible. I have done WILD on several lucids before, so I can understand the feeling.

Not exactly sure what it is you're describing.

However, there are no multiple dream layers. As others have pointed out though, trying to lucid drea inside a dream can be beneficial. I became lucid once, and found a bed and layed down. When I "fell asleep" I was in a new dream scene (good teleportation technique btw), and whenever I would lose control of that dream I would have a FA in the dream bed and be able to instantly return to the dream, almost like a DEILD without actually waking up.

Lol Let me clarify. It's not necessarily dream layers that I was talking about. It's more being semi-aware when I started to try LDing in the dream and then becoming slightly more aware after trying. I didn't mean I had a second dream. In fact I'm pretty sure it was the same dream, because after I came back out of the "blue water" scene I think I briefly went back to the previous area I was dreaming in, THEN it stopped. So, that's pretty much what I was talking about! Thank for the info anyway! Very helpful! ^__~

Like many others have posted, I too have tried to WILD in non-lucids before. I'd "succeed" in the attempt and enter a new dream, lucid, not realizing the WILD wasn't real until I woke up. I'd do a facepalm and get a little disappointed, because I really thought I WILDed for a moment.

Dreams are very much linear (like a timeline) and are in no way layered. You can definitely get the feeling like you've entered a new layer, though; for instance if you fall asleep in one dream, you'll wake up in another.

Last night I had a dream about being with my parents in a large urban center place. I then thought it might be a dream and tried to make myself lucid somehow, by concentrating or something.
Here's the thing though, it was like I was watching myself do this, watching myself decide to try to become lucid. I was still in my body, but it was like I wasn't in control, like most dreams. I technically figured this was a dream, and tried to become lucid, but I didn't, so myself watching it didn't become lucid either.

Originally Posted by Avalanche

Last night I had a dream about being with my parents in a large urban center place. I then thought it might be a dream and tried to make myself lucid somehow, by concentrating or something.
Here's the thing though, it was like I was watching myself do this, watching myself decide to try to become lucid. I was still in my body, but it was like I wasn't in control, like most dreams. I technically figured this was a dream, and tried to become lucid, but I didn't, so myself watching it didn't become lucid either.

D: What? I, I don't even. How do you think you're in a dream and be watching yourself? How do you try to become lucid?

It was just like a regular dream, then I became suspicious. Or more like I saw myself become suspicious. I remember watching myself (again, I was always in my own body) trying to sort of force lucidity like I was forcing out a little brown fish or something. When that didn't work for "me", it was like I returned to being one person in "control" and I just walked on.

So it was like a dream as usual, but then a part of me tried to make myself lucid, and I just watched, and when it failed, I just went on.

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You do know what lucidity is, right? It's simply knowing you're dreaming, you either are or you aren't, there is no try. You don't 'do' or 'force' lucidity.

Maybe you just had one of those weird dream experiences that don't translate very well to waking logic.

I do know what lucidity is, thank you.

You weren't there, you wouldn't be able to fully understand it. It was me in a dream, then it was like I was taken out of control (control being I was going where I wanted in the dream, but not in a lucid dream, there is a difference if you think about it. It wasn't like I was being taken around the place by people or whatever) and I saw myself try to make lucidity happen. This isn't how lucid comes about, I know, but that's what happened. Then when nothing happened, it went back to normal and I continued on.

I suppose it was like a normal dream, then I was being shown something else (the making lucidity thing) and then back to the dream. It was all part of the dream really, it just so happened to be about my wanting to become lucid.

Originally Posted by Avalanche

Last night I had a dream about being with my parents in a large urban center place. I then thought it might be a dream and tried to make myself lucid somehow, by concentrating or something.
Here's the thing though, it was like I was watching myself do this, watching myself decide to try to become lucid. I was still in my body, but it was like I wasn't in control, like most dreams. I technically figured this was a dream, and tried to become lucid, but I didn't, so myself watching it didn't become lucid either.

Lol! I understand. It's happened to me too.