Thread: Effect of Amalgam/mercury/metallic tooth filling on Lucid Dreaming

Originally Posted by cmind

Funny guy eh...

So thats a no, you dont think it affects ability to Lucid Dream then?


Just answer the damn poll will ya

The energetic feeling right as you enter REM is not electricity. It is spontaneous middle ear muscle activity. It feels like vibration or electric shock, but it is just rapid ear movement, similar to rapid eye movement.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

The energetic feeling right as you enter REM is not electricity. It is spontaneous middle ear muscle activity. It feels like vibration or electric shock, but it is just rapid ear movement, similar to rapid eye movement.

I think you are talking about something different. Maybe there is Rapid Ear movement as you enter REM.


Regardless, the body has electricity running through its entire system, electricity and its electromagnetic field are related. The Metals in your mouth can affect the electromagnetic field given its conductivity, thus disrupting your ability to Lucid Dream. That is my hypothesis and so far the poll would seem to suggest the same.



If the circuitry in your computer were to touch any metallic object, it would short circuit and fail to function at all.

I am suggesting the same happens, with regards to the metals in our mouth, though not shutting down our system/circuitry completely, given its more advanced construction than your average computer, it is still disruptive, increasing in its undesirable effect the more metal you have in your mouth.

The energy which is running through you entire system is so minute that it matters not if you have metal in your mouth or not. the electricity does not form some kind of "aura" and will stick to the circuits in which it was intended, anything less would be a failure of evolution.

Also, you cannot possibly gain any insight from a poll which has two replies.

Dunc.

Edit: Your claim is akin to claiming that if you wear a watch during the day you logical reasoning would be affected.

Originally Posted by Duncan

The energy which is running through you entire system is so minute that it matters not if you have metal in your mouth or not. the electricity does not form some kind of "aura" and will stick to the circuits in which it was intended, anything less would be a failure of evolution.

Also, you cannot possibly gain any insight from a poll which has two replies.

Dunc.

If I told you I can increase energy intensity in my head, and that I can feel the metal filling drawing energy, would you believe me?


It is an intense pressure that builds in my head, then it begins to build around my amalgam tooth fillings....

So I am not questioning whether the amalgam tooth fillings are disturbing my energy flow, I know it is.... I am wondering whether this is having such an effect that it is hindering people from Lucid Dreaming with any proficiency, as it appears to be doing to me...


Also it is a small sample size, but the poll still does in fact suggest what I am hypothesising, regardless. Am I right or am I right if you would also place your position in the poll, maybe we can make some headway, rather than complaining about its small sample size

Originally Posted by Keiju

If I told you I can increase energy intensity in my head, and that I can feel the metal filling drawing energy, would you believe me?


It is an intense pressure that builds in my head, then it begins to build around my amalgam tooth fillings....

So I am not questioning whether the amalgam tooth fillings are disturbing my energy flow, I know it is.... I am wondering whether this is having such an effect that it is hindering people from Lucid Dreaming with any proficiency, as it appears to be doing to me...


Also it is a small sample size, but the poll still does in fact suggest what I am hypothesising, regardless. Am I right or am I right

The electrical feeling in your head is caused by sleep paralysis, which is a particular firing pattern of your neurons. At no point does any electricity pass through your mouth, unless you munch on 9V batteries when you sleep...

Originally Posted by cmind

The electrical feeling in your head is caused by sleep paralysis, which is a particular firing pattern of your neurons. At no point does any electricity pass through your mouth, unless you munch on 9V batteries when you sleep...

You seem rather oblivious to the workings of the human body, yet have no shortage of insight into its system. the face palm is an effective means of disproving one's argument, but not if they know what their talking about

Bioelectromagnetics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bioelectromagnetics is the study of the interaction between electromagnetic fields and biological entities. Common areas of investigation include animal navigation utilizing the geomagnetic field, potential effects of man-made sources of electromagnetic fields like mobile phones, and developing novel therapies to treat various conditions. The term is similar to bioelectromagnetism, which deals with the ability of living cells, tissues and organisms to produce electrical fields and the response of cells to electromagnetic fields.

Bioelectromagnetism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bioelectromagnetism (sometimes equated with bioelectricity) refers to the electrical, magnetic or electromagnetic fields produced by living cells, tissues or organisms. Examples include the cell membrane potential and the electric currents that flow in nerves and muscles, as a result of action potentials. 'Bioelectromagnetism' is somewhat similar to bioelectromagnetics, which deals with the effect on life from external electromagnetism; yet such an effect also falls under the definition of 'bioelectromagnetism'

Originally Posted by Duncan

Edit: Your claim is akin to claiming that if you wear a watch during the day you logical reasoning would be affected.

The watch is on your arm, as opposed to the head, where the metal fillings are placed, thus less likely to affect our mental process'.

Though I would actually argue, that a metallic wrist watch would disrupt the electromagnetic field in that area, in this instance, the wrist.

As would any metallic object in any electromagnetic field with any electricity present.

This is just cold hard science, one of the most basic foundations, there is no doubt that the metal in our mouths will disrupt the bioelectromagnetic field. What I am attempting to find out is, whether this disruption is significant enough to hinder one's ability to Lucid Dream at any significant proportion, as I am experiencing.

If your fillings were able to somehow interfere with your body's electromagnetic systems, dreaming would be the least of your problems.

If you want to play the wikipedia game here is a listing under the page "List of topics characterized as pseudoscience"

Electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) – reported sensitivity to electric and magnetic fields or electromagnetic radiation of various frequencies at exposure levels well below established safety standards. Symptoms are inconsistent, but can include headache, fatigue, difficulty sleeping, and similar non-specific indications.[156] Provocation studies find that the discomfort of sufferers is unrelated to hidden sources of radiation,[157][158] and "no scientific basis currently exists for a connection between EHS and exposure to [electromagnetic fields]."[159]

I voted in your poll even though it is not a valid study at all and doesnt take into account a bajillion other factors that would influence the results.

Originally Posted by Duncan

If you want to play the wikipedia game here is a listing under the page "List of topics characterized as pseudoscience"

Electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) – reported sensitivity to electric and magnetic fields or electromagnetic radiation of various frequencies at exposure levels well below established safety standards. Symptoms are inconsistent, but can include headache, fatigue, difficulty sleeping, and similar non-specific indications.[156] Provocation studies find that the discomfort of sufferers is unrelated to hidden sources of radiation,[157][158] and "no scientific basis currently exists for a connection between EHS and exposure to [electromagnetic fields]."[159]

Listed wikipedia for the existence of the bodies bio-electricity, given the doubts been expressed.

Could have listed any of the countless links available.


Nothing to do with EHS....


If you think an electromagnetic field can not disrupt the human bio-electromagnetic field, then you are severely deluded, radiation is an extreme electromagnetic field..... you would not doubt that it is having an effect there? Anything that affects objects at a distance is doing so through its electromagnetic field....

There is no doubt that EM fields can harm us, even kill us, in this instance with the metallic tooth fillings, it is a small EM field, yet present, thus disruptive, regardless of how small the disruption is....

Originally Posted by Duncan

I voted in your poll even though it is not a valid study at all and doesnt take into account a bajillion other factors that would influence the results.

Yes I can also think of a "bajillion" other factors that would influence the results

That does not make the poll any less relevant. And thank you for voting.

no...sorry but your brain does not work that way at all. you could put a human being next to incredibly powerful magnets and there would be no effect at all. you clearly have almost no knowledge of how electronic magnetism works, as demonstrated by your statement that radioactivity is caused by a magnetic field. its a halycination...get over it.

Originally Posted by randosity

no...sorry but your brain does not work that way at all. you could put a human being next to incredibly powerful magnets and there would be no effect at all. you clearly have almost no knowledge of how electronic magnetism works, as demonstrated by your statement that radioactivity is caused by a magnetic field. its a halycination...get over it.

Again another stranger making the most peculiarly incorrect statements, but I am happy to rehash your high school text book....


Its called the electromagnetic spectrum:

Electromagnetic Spectrum

Maybe you have seen it before? It includes many of the so called "radiation" particles, gamma, alpha and beta....


Here is a short video for you, given you obviously dont like to read, demonstrating that magnets do in fact affect our brains...

How magnets affect the human brain - Boing Boing


Next ... feel like a high school teacher, though I imagine, maybe most of you still are in high school. That would certainly explain alot....

Originally Posted by Keiju

Maybe you have seen it before? It includes many of the so called "radiation" particles, gamma, alpha and beta....

lols. Alpha and beta particles aren't even in the EM spectrum, they're not photons! Alpha particles are helium nuclei and beta particles are electrons.

Originally Posted by cmind

lols. Alpha and beta particles aren't even in the EM spectrum, they're not photons! Alpha particles are helium nuclei and beta particles are electrons.

Sure. Not on the so called "EM spectrum"


Though alpha and beta rays are charged particles/waves, and have an electromagnetic component, thus has an electromagnetic field.


But that is a little off-topic.


They say light has no mass, but I say that is pure crap. If its there, it has a mass.


Here is an interesting video for you that has the standard model under question, breaking down the apparent obviousness of whether something is a particle or a wave, when they become as small as alpha or beta particles/waves.

Dr. Quantum - Quantum Physics Simplified! - YouTube

Originally Posted by Keiju

Again another stranger making the most peculiarly incorrect statements, but I am happy to rehash your high school text book....


Its called the electromagnetic spectrum:

Electromagnetic Spectrum

Maybe you have seen it before? It includes many of the so called "radiation" particles, gamma, alpha and beta....


Here is a short video for you, given you obviously dont like to read, demonstrating that magnets do in fact affect our brains...

How magnets affect the human brain - Boing Boing


Next ... feel like a high school teacher, though I imagine, maybe most of you still are in high school. That would certainly explain alot....

regardless, radiation is not caused by magnetism, even though it does create some electromagnetic radiation. Stating that radiation is an magnetic field or is caused by magnetism is idiotic. you need an insanely strong magnet to do anything to the human brain. Take an MRI machine for example, which can pull a metal pin out of a patient's leg from 10 feet away. An Mri machine causes no detrimental effects on the brain at all.

anyway, none of that matters considering amalgam fillings are simply not magnetic. they main contain tiny bits of ferrous metals (which doesn't even mean they are creating an electromagnetic field),but almost all of it is completely non-ferrous. if you have one of these fillings you can have an MRI with no problems...

Originally Posted by randosity

regardless, radiation is not caused by magnetism, even though it does create some electromagnetic radiation. Stating that radiation is an magnetic field or is caused by magnetism is idiotic. you need an insanely strong magnet to do anything to the human brain. Take an MRI machine for example, which can pull a metal pin out of a patient's leg from 10 feet away. An Mri machine causes no detrimental effects on the brain at all.

anyway, none of that matters considering amalgam fillings are simply not magnetic. they main contain tiny bits of ferrous metals (which doesn't even mean they are creating an electromagnetic field),but almost all of it is completely non-ferrous. if you have one of these fillings you can have an MRI with no problems...

You are telling me, that the metallic tooth filling will have no effect on the electromagnetic field of anything?

EVERYTHING has an electromagentic field, this I can assure you.

I can also assure you that ANYTHING will affect the electromagnetic field of ANYTHING. However small this effect may be, it is deffinitely present.


In this instance, where we have a METAL that is known to be especially disruptive in an electromagnetic field, then surely there is a potential problem, not to mention the poisonous/toxic properties of mercury that makes up 50% of the metallic tooth filling.


Just because a metal is not "magnetic", that does not mean it does not have an ELECTROMAGNETIC field.

Nor did I say ANYWHERE that radiation was caused by electromagnetism, although it can most deffinitely be argued from that perspective.

Originally Posted by Keiju

Just because a metal is not "magnetic", that does not mean it does not have an ELECTROMAGNETIC field.

yes actually it does, and you aren't worth arguing with anymore.

Originally Posted by randosity

yes actually it does, and you aren't worth arguing with anymore.

Im not arguing with you, im telling you... it is a fact, everything has an electromagentic field, literally , everything in the universe..... so please

Originally Posted by Keiju

so please

Oh don't worry, we're all reading this.