Thread: Longest LD Possible?

It seems possible to me. A lot of people tend to forget that you actually dream while not in REM sleep, although dreams not in REM are a lot harder to remember, which is why nobody really recalls them. Also it seems from my understanding that they are a lot less vivid and unclear compared to a dream in a REM cycle.
I've only slept for a hour one night before I woke up (Fell asleep at 11:43 pm and woke up around 12) and remembered I had already had a dream...

Originally Posted by Duffles22

It seems possible to me. A lot of people tend to forget that you actually dream while not in REM sleep, although dreams not in REM are a lot harder to remember, which is why nobody really recalls them. Also it seems from my understanding that they are a lot less vivid and unclear compared to a dream in a REM cycle.
I've only slept for a hour one night before I woke up (Fell asleep at 11:43 pm and woke up around 12) and remembered I had already had a dream which seems impossible if you recall the first REM cycle starts about 4-6 hours after you fall asleep.

You see that's the problem. How do you know for sure your dream was a NREM dream. Also I think the first REM-cycle starts after ca. 90 minutes (The REM-cycle is short I know), plus (I'm not sure on this part), but I think there isn't a sleep paralysis during NREM sleep.

Originally Posted by Sandyman

You see that's the problem. How do you know for sure your dream was a NREM dream. Also I think the first REM-cycle starts after ca. 90 minutes (It's short I know), plus (I'm not sure on this part), but I think there isn't a sleep paralysis during NREM sleep.

I'm pretty sure sleep paralysis occurs whether your going into a REM cycle or not. (if anyone knows more about this and knows Im wrong feel free to correct me). Also your contradicting yourself, you ask me how I know its a REM cycle or not and then mention that the first REM cycle occurs roughly 90 minutes after sleeping. just saying...

Last thing: I know this isn't much to go on, but the dream I had was very chaotic and was blurry and dull in colors, which is completely opposite of what my regular dreams are. It could have been a coincidence but I thought it seemed more likely that I wasn't in a REM cycle.

Originally Posted by Duffles22

I'm pretty sure sleep paralysis occurs whether your going into a REM cycle or not. (if anyone knows more about this and knows Im wrong feel free to correct me), its purpose is to keep your body still while asleep (not only while dreaming). Also your contradicting yourself, you ask me how I know its a REM cycle or not and then mention that the first REM cycle occurs roughly 90 minutes after sleeping. just saying...

Okay, normally the first REM-cycle begins after 90min, but this span can vary on a case by case basis. I just wanted to say, that there is the possibility that a REM-Cycle already occured, but how do you proof it? I don't know your sleep schedule and your body could have just taken a 'nap'. I researched a little bit and it seems that NREM dreams are not really the simualtion-based REM-cycle dreams, but more like thinking or daydreaming (academic.pgcc.edu/~mhspear/sleep/stages/nrsleep.html <- I don't know how reliable that source is, maybe someone can confirm it or say it's rubbish). Also wikipedia says that you are not paralyzed during NREM (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NREM <- Again, I don't know how reliable that is, because the information about that seems unfocused).