Unlearning Everything Works?

[SpecterSlash]

Well I made a post awhile back asking if I can unlearn all the techniques because they have been holding me back. And too much reading of techniques makes me trust it too much and get less lucid dreams or any dreams at all. You can see it here: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...verything.html Anyways ive sort of "unlearned" or just simply ignored all the techniques and decided to make a graph or chart. 7 Days ago with techniques: No dreams at all, or i just cant recall them 3 days from that post: Vivid dreams 2 of them lucid. Anyone tried to unlearn the techniques because before I knew about the techniques like WILD/MILD I could remember more dreams by simply sleeping in bed.

[JoannaB]

You have not unlearned anything. You are ignoring it. There is a difference. If I were to ask you to tell me the difference between DILD and WILD, I bet you still could. Your mistake was not learning, but trying to apply all the techniques without deciding whether they are a good idea for you and carefully discarding anything that does not work for you. For example, after reading about the Impossible Movement Induction Method, I decided to try it out. I did not become lucid, but my wrist hurt the next day because apparently I had thought so hard about the impossible movement that I must have flexed those mustles inadvertently too much. So I decided to not try this technique again. I did not unlearn it. I still know what the technique is supposed to be like. I strongly suspect I did it wrong. But for me it is not worth it to try again. I know though that for someone else that might be a great technique and I am glad I learned about it.

[Scionox]

What JoannaB said. One has to find his own way with lucid dreaming, tutorials are here only to provide the information that is helpful for a start, depending fully on tutorials is a wrong move since lucid dreaming related things vary so much from person to person, the right move is to use that information and experiment with various methods and techniques, getting closer and closer to creating an perfect technique to one's own.

[gab]

You only need to unlearn your bad habits. I don't imply that you have any. You can't really 'unlearn' something, but you can replacing them with good habits. And until you try a technique, you don't know, if it will be 'good' or 'bad' for you. Until you find out, you go through techniques and you adjust them according to what works for you and what doesn't. The 'bad habits' (things that don't work for you) serve as base of your lucid dreaming habits and knowledge. You build on it. You go through trial and error. Same way you go through life. In ideal world, you would only learn good things. But in this world, everybody makes a mistake sometimes. Important thing is to realize what you doing wrong and change it. That's why when you don't succeed with getting lucid, you should not see it as a failure. Take it as a valuable lesson. one step closer to your goal. Method will hold you back, only if it doesn't work for you and you follow it to the letter. You have to give something enough time to work and then adjust.

[Sageous]

First, listen to Gab, SpecterSlash. Next, as long as I'm here: Lucid dreaming is not about techniques, SpecterSlash, whether you learned them all or somehow managed to magically unlearn them (yes, without severe brain surgery or a vast amount of time, you really cannot unlearn things, or even ignore them very well.). LD'ing is a state of mind, and you must have solid self-awareness, command of memory, and high expectations/intentions before any techniques will work for you. Try not to attach too much importance to techniques; they're just tools, not solutions. You can certainly attempt to LD without using any techniques, and honestly if your mindset is strong and mental prep well set, you might have some luck. But why not, as JoannaB already said, tap what techniques -- or portions of them -- work for you instead of trying to ignore them? The core techniques -- MILD, WILD/DEILD, and DILD -- are fairly basic, each being designed for a different approach based on timing and interest, with none being better than the other. I think if you choose to "remember" what you learned from each of them, you'll have much more luck consciously tapping your dreams than by simply waiting for a LD to occur on its own. Also, though dream recall is a good thing, and vivid dreams are very nice, LD'ing is not about dream recall or vividness; it is about bringing your waking life self-awareness into a dream and nothing more. You likely already know that, but it didn't seem clear. P.S. : Actively avoiding all techniques is also a technique; isn't it?