Idea for MULTIPLYING TIME in lucid dreams

**ONLYWILDS** · 05-05-2013 12:43 AM

So I was thinking about a pseudo (if that's the right word) lucid dream I had a couple weeks ago, in which I started out in a regular non-lucid and actually went to go try WILD'ing within the dream, which I had very quick success with. It was a weird experience because I experienced an LD and a weird sense of another consciousness (maybe the actual dream) at the same time. Before I woke up in reality, I woke up in the dream, still not knowing I was in a dream, and was excited to tell everybody in the dream world. When I WILD'ed within the dream it felt just as fascinating and strange as when I do it directly from my normal waking life...

So I saw that movie Inception again recently and I was thinking about this dream, and the whole concept of a dream within a dream. In the film, the concept was that the deeper you go in inducing dreams within dreams, the more time seems to dilate. Considering dreaming within a dream is in fact possible, it really doesn't seem too far-fetched to say that this idea of perceiving time in a very different manner can be possible. Looking back on this dream that I WILD'ed within, it did feel REEAALLY long!! So I was thinking it would be a very insightful experiment to try to WILD once in a lucid dream (this is very easy to do in your already-established dream state), and keep trying to layer WILD's on top of each other and see if time seems to multiply for a really long, epic lucid dreaming vacation, when you go deeper within the astral planes.

I know I am trying this next time I'm in a lucid, and I encourage other to do so as well, because this could very well be a benchmark in being able to drastically manipulate time in LD's. Anything is possible in lucid dreams, so why shouldn't making the experience longer be possible? Then again, it could be too good to be true.

Anyone have any relatable experiences to share?

**Zoth** · 05-05-2013 12:50 AM

In actual practice, there isn't a dream inside a dream. Dreams have no layers sadly, all we experience are the illusions. Still, pretty interesting topic considering that time itself can be considered an illusion ^^

**ONLYWILDS** · 05-05-2013 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by Zoth

Dreams have no layers sadly, all we experience are the illusions.

Maybe this is true, but then how could you explain false awakenings? Everything is consistent, and if you go to bed in a dream, then you enter another dream (ok so maybe its the same dream), but when you exit that dimension of your ''layered'' dream, you just go back to the dream you started in... What I'm trying to say is that if these layers are illusions, than why in dreams within dreams do we wake back up in the dream we started in first, instead of jumping through the ''illusion of a dream layer'' directly back into waking consciousness? I agree with you, it's sketchy, because a dream is a dream, you're going to wake up in waking life no matter what,but seriously, I think the expectation of your subconscious trying to enter yet another dream in your already dream state can be enough for it to create an illusion of time-dilation. I will post back when I try this experiment, hopefully I have a lucid soon!

**Zoth** · 05-05-2013 01:11 AM

False awakenings are phenomenons that can happen as a way of the brain to keep you asleep. Sometimes some external disturbance may cause the dreamer to wake up (in case of lucidity, nightmares, strong emotions, anxiety), and since it's not yet the "time", the brain produces this vivid recreation of the waking reality in order to "trick" the dreamer. One example of this is when you tend to have more false awakenings when your anxious regarding something the next day, like going to court or when you go to bed with some intention (like when we WILD or DEILD).

I do think that there may be differences in time perception, studies have revealed that people in lucid dreams took 44,5% longer to perform sit-ups when compared to waking state

**ONLYWILDS** · 05-05-2013 01:25 AM

Interesting. I've seen you all over dreamviews, so I figure maybe you're experienced in this matter.. You have any of your own methods that consistently work to stretch the time of an LD?

**Sensei** · 05-05-2013 02:42 AM

I haven't stretched time in an LD on purpose, but I have spent a week in a lucid. It isn't something that I did on purpose, but a lot of people (like hukif) have been able to dilate time in a dream.

I have had dreams where I have gone further "into the dream" by sleeping and woken up IWL, and other times where I have woken up in another dream, and other times where it continues the previous dream. A dream within a dream really is just a scene change or teleporting.

One thing that hukif says is that whatever you believe will work (like dream control) should work. So if you think that falling asleep in a dream will dilate time, then it should. According to him.

I believe him, but of course there is no proof anyone can offer for that.

Anything can happen in a dream.

Also "everything is consistent" is not true for everyone. If you think everything is consistent then it will be. I like to change dreams from being consistent to not, so I decide which ones are consistent by believing that they are and I can go back in a different dream.

**ONLYWILDS** · 05-05-2013 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by brandonboss

but i have spent a week in a lucid.

omg are you serious... Like it actually felt like a week and you were lucid the entire time?!!!! I need to know how to do this.

**Sensei** · 05-05-2013 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by ONLYWILDS

omg are you serious... Like it actually felt like a week and you were lucid the entire time?!!!! I need to know how to do this.

I didn't do it on purpose. It was soooo fun! I am planning on dilating time, but I only ever remember like 1 goal during dreams and it is normally something I don't care about at all anymore. Haha.

It felt like a week, but I think it only lasted about 48 hours. In lost lucidity for a bit and it jumped ahead in the story a few days twice. It was only like an hour long of sleep, so 48X normal time is crazy.