Thread: Is Lucid dreaming Reality checks similar to Insanity/going crazy?

Welcome voByJunior2013 I checked out your first post here (edit: here on Dreamviews, not this thread) and the profile you listed on that post and I think it would be best if you spoke to your doctor about this first. If you get the okay from your doctor, feel free to look me up and I would be glad to help you any way that I can as it seems like you could potentially benefit from the amazing worlds in our dreams, lucid or not. *Edit: I am referring to your first post in the Dreamviews forums, not your first post in this thread.

Originally Posted by fogelbise

*Edit: I am referring to your first post in the Dreamviews forums, not your first post in this thread.

I added a few edits to my posts a few posts back that hopefully make it more clear why I posted that.

What fogelbise alludes to - if there is a psychiatric problem going on - it will be up to you, to intuitively get a feeling for if the whole subject is prone to push you over an edge, you would rather stay away from.

To ask your physician might or might not be fruitful - she should know about LD, see below, and that it is in no way insane in itself - but she will probably not have literature to consult - nor have lots of patients, who did experiment with it.
So - she can only guess, if it does you good or not.
Guess either on the side of caution - sensible in a way - but then it is on you to take on the advice or not, ultimately.
Or guess based on what you are reporting.

Do you LD and since when and how is it - do you suspect, there being a problem with it based on experiences, or just theoretically?
Since you ask about RC - is it about LD yet?

Originally Posted by flowofmysoul

I am Lucid Dreaming every day and sometimes I think I am going crazy, but then I understand that I am not going crazy.

Just as an example, lets say you would see a real alien, he would do crazy stuff to you and make you believe in crazy things. Next day you tell this to your family, they get you to a doctor, you tell him the same and in short period of time you get to the nuthouse. They would call it 'whatever illness name', put you on pills and there you go. Enjoy the rest of your life there.
I am trying to say that, we are living in the modern world and what we do now here, would be called dark magic some time ago. Maybe in future this is going to be normal for every person to lucid dream and enjoy some beyond dreaming capabilities.

Yea, we are very close to going crazy. But we learn to understand this process, so we are not going insane. Every advanced lucid dreamer, ask's him self, from time to time, if he is going crazy or not. I am pretty sure about it.
I think that people who do not believe in obvious fact that Lucid Dreaming does exist - are even more crazy then us.

I am happy that nowadays Lucid Dreaming is not a crime. We are here not to have a war against those who do not Lucid Dream. We are here to learn, explore and enjoy.

I do not think, we are close to going crazy but close to more awareness of reality.

And - the ones doing the hard science on LD here in Germany are psychiatrists - with functional-resonance-tomography and the like. And the psychologists are on about it too.
It is actually right now and in the moment something, consciousness research loves.
To go at it from psychedelics would be something very fruitful as well, I think - but that is indeed mostly connected to extremely much action to get the allowances even for neuro-scientists, and esp. with human subjects - that more towards Highlander.
Might be, a change in thinking is coming along - but America forces first order substance regulations on other countries, which do commerce with them - as a primary source of problems.

So - somebody declaring you mad for LDing didn´t do her homework on the state of the art of neuroscience and psychiatry and psychology!
The thing with your alien - weell - could mean a lot of things - could be a good idea to help you, if you were suffering in any which way - could be a good idea to do that with medication.

I still hope for first contact in my lifetime, btw - that´s a whole other bucket of fish.

But surely you do not get locked away for life anywhere these days - if you would - that institution needed to be law-suited down, if it managed to have survived the dark ages of psychiatry.

I do not think, that experiences with the beyond will be common place - I do not believe in such in the first place.
And in believing in things like astral projection and to be in any way in real danger and stalked by sinister entities of the dream-sphere - that I personally deem very irrational - and it might drive you insane to really believe in such things, too.
Never understood how somebody can take stuff like night-stalkers seriously and still be totally unafraid - acting as if in reality - in no way they do really believe in that stuff. So it would be for most, I actually think - half-baked belief, only - not full delusion.

But LDing might be common place one day - yes! Hopefully!

How can you come up with being happy it is not a crime, though??
How can it be - being in your head?
Do you imagine a dream-police, standing at your bed with an EEG and putting you in jail for the wrong sort of waves?
Now that is a bit of a strange sentiment to be happy about this.

Originally Posted by StephL

I do not think, we are close to going crazy but close to more awareness of reality

It depends how serious you take Lucid Dreaming. If you keep it on time-to-time occasions for fun only, then it is another story. If you choose to study it, if you want to go deeper you will sometimes catch your self on the idea that you might be going crazy. But that's just an illusion, we are alright. Well most of us.
I am not talking about that some people use Lucid Dreaming as a drug, they want to escape their failed reality and get into new world. It is another topic.

There were moments in real life where I could not confirm whether it was dream or reality. I had many strange things happened to me, during 6 years of Lucid Dreaming. And I am not the only one, there are many others with same experience.

Originally Posted by StephL

How can you come up with being happy it is not a crime, though??
How can it be - being in your head?
Do you imagine a dream-police, standing at your bed with an EEG and putting you in jail for the wrong sort of waves?
Now that is a bit of a strange sentiment to be happy about this.

I guess to each their own, if you do not believe in Beyond Dreaming it is your choice and I do not have anything against that.

I feel that you think that Shared Dreaming is the only aspect of Beyond Dreaming, but it is not. Even if was shared dreaming, as far as I know and as how my experience shows, we cannot affect each other in shared dream, we can only change our shared dream world.

Yea the idea that we might have some kind of dream police sounds funny. But you never know, it might happen one day.