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    Thread: Lucidity At The Very End Of REM-Phases - Reason For "Instability" Issues?

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      I think that happens a lot StephL ! I also think stabilization is a controversial issue, although Laberge has evidence to support it. I would ask: why stop to stabilize and not continue engaging with the dream ? As far as one's excitement is not too high, i think there's no need to stabilize. However, i always pray for dream stability as soon as i get lucid, so...

      Now, if it can at least become a good opportunity to DEILD idk, i am more inclined to say no - but of course no problem to try
      There was a recent thread in which this question was raised, if you want to check it out
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      Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way

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      Quote Originally Posted by VagalTone View Post
      I think that happens a lot StephL ! I also think stabilization is a controversial issue, although Laberge has evidence to support it. I would ask: why stop to stabilize and not continue engaging with the dream ? As far as one's excitement is not too high, i think there's no need to stabilize. However, i always pray for dream stability as soon as i get lucid, so...

      Now, if it can at least become a good opportunity to DEILD idk, i am more inclined to say no - but of course no problem to try
      There was a recent thread in which this question was raised, if you want to check it out
      Well engaging with the dream does not equate to having a high stability or awareness, the point of stabilization is to continue the awareness required to maintain a lucid dream. The problem with utilizing dream engagement is that you could easily, forget about the dream or get carried away as you frequently do in real life. The moment you include some awareness practice you are automatically using stabilization, because that's all it is - just a tool to enhance the lucidity and rationality behind your thinking and actions.

      I need it to continue my dreams lucidly. When I forget to stabilize or am too lazy I literally lose the dream in less than minute every time. This could be partly due to the nature of lucid dreaming (perhaps it isn't a very stable state of mind) but I believe it mainly to be because I fall into an unconscious slumber.

      Anyone who has ever tried ADA or similar practices will know the feeling of being fully aware and all of a sudden just falling into a mindless drone while you listen to music or walk down an aisle. If it's so easy to lose lucidity in real life, can you imagine how hard it is in a dream!
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