Thread: Natural Lucid Dreamer, ADHD, and New to this site!

The gravitational constant, g, is an experimentally derived number. They had to test it by dropping things I believe. Physics has no satisfactory explanation of why gravity works. Some theorize about a gravitron, but no one has ever observed one.

String theory has an explanation for gravity, but it's still a long way from being completed (in terms of other properties of the universe besides gravity). String theory does account for the four major forces in the universe; gravity, magnetism, strong nuclear force, and weak nuclear force.

There's a book called "The Elegant Universe" by Brian Greene. It explains it well.

Wow you got it exactly Serinanth, pretty cool.

Nix-man, I understand what your saying, and do not deny your point, but like I said, and Serinanth also pointed out, was that I was trying to demonstrate the idea that humans limit themselves to a finate situation, a finate amount fo time, always a finate egauation to everything around them.
It is very easy to think in a finate system, under rules, laws, and boundries we humans created to expain the unknown.

We except gravity as true, real, and understood, but that is because we were taught to except it as real. Here solve this mathmatical equation it proves gravity really does exist. Here we can experiemtn with it and show you further proof its real, and in a sense, they are telling the truth.

What I was stating is the idea that it is just as real and true that gravity is not real, and something created by humans to explain an unknow force we can't explain. If one removes the rules, the laws that govern our understanding, and allows themselves to entertain the idea without restrictions of this world, you will quickly find that it is very possible that gravity exists only in our minds, and has become such a normal thought process that we stopped questioning it after some time.

My point here is this: Why not question everything?


This is not about who is right or worng, or whats real or not, but more about thinking differently abut the world and universe we find ourselve sin right now.

The average life span of a human being ranges around 70 to 90 years old.
Think about this for a second.

The average years you will live on earth will be about 80 years we will say for now.

80 years

A child will tell you that 80 years is such a long time to them. 80 years is very old to a child. Ask a child to wait 80 years and they will tell you its way to long and not possible, it's jsut to long of a time.

A middle aged adult (30-40) will tell you that 80 years is too short. Just not enough time, it just flys by you the odler you get. You blink and before you know it your 80 years old. We are jsut not here long enough, and 80 years just feels like a short amount fo time to live.

A human who is 80 years old will tell you much of the same things. But many of them tend to also say that 80 years is such a long time to live. What they have done in 80 years, all the work, success, failures, experiences, love, hate, emotions, understanding, knowledge they have gained in 80 years, just amazes them at how long 80 years is to them.


Humans naturally think in a finate way. But 80 years in respect to life as a whole is nothing more then a brief moment in time. A part so small humans can't easily understand jsut how small 80 years is in respects to everything.

To limit ones mind to a finate thought process is much easier and comfortable then to allow the mind to open up and freely question everything. The brain hs some amazing abillities held deep within that humans are only starting to understand and explore.

Lucid dreaming has always been possible, humans are only now starting to explore this new unknown area of the human mind. Waht will we discover, what will we learn?

How is it possible that a human being can dream about events that have yet to pass, understand and know that theya re truely dreaming, create and change the dream at will, experiment, and understand the effects and outcome of such events, before they have even come to pass, and thus wake, find themselves in that very same event in reality, and know exactly the outcome of this event and all possible choices that can be made, and when that moment happens, that person knowing the outcomes of all choices, knwoing the effects of those choices before they have passed, makes the very same choice they intended to make, knowing of its outcome, yet still making the same choice?

Think about this for a second, I know I switch gears here, but I think I am on to something so go with me here.

We dream of events, dialy activities, conversations, choices, things we have already done, or have yet to do. Some people call this deja vu, and we all know the feeling when we realize it.

You have been there before, heard that said already, know what will happen already. At that moment we are presented with a very small window in which to make a choice.

Same with lucid dreaming of such events in life. We dream them, play them out in our dreams, maybe a conversation between lovers about a problem they are having, and you have dreamed each choice, and each effects and consiguenses of those choices, and know what you should do.

That moment happens, you suddenly and with much surprise to yourself realize, "deja vu" I have done this already, WOW!". At that moment in time you are given a small window of choice.

What I have discovered in my own experiemntation into this situation, is that no matter how many times I find myself in that position of "deja vu" feelings, or that conversations I have already heard in my dreams, every single time I have that moment of choice, I have always failed to take it.

I have always said, done, acted the very way I know I normally would have, and yet I knew very well that if I made a different choice things would have happened differently.

So why do I still make the same choice every time? Why with the knowledge I have of the event, the conversation, what ever the case, knowing that I can do, or say, or act in a differnet specific way and this will happen instead, do I find myself always no taking that different road?

Think about it, think about such cases in your own life, has it happened to you, and what happend each time you realized that moment of choice?

This discovery has lead me to think of a lot of things, but one thing in particular keeps coming up in my mind over and over again.

We each are on a different path in life, and beyond. We each are connected to each other in some way. Our subconsious knows this path, and of its true outcome before we consciously understand it. When we are presented with an event in our lives that crosses with another subconsious's event we feel a sort of deja vu, because subconsiously we have traveled this path already, and to make a different choice at that moment would cause our subconsious to cross with another, connect on a level never before heard of, and the effects of that choice are totally unknown to the huamn mind on a conscious level of understanding, and thus our own subconscious, knowing the path before it already as one of understanding and comfort, denies our conscious abillity to actually chose differently at these moments in our life.

By denying ourselves to chose differently, our subconscious protects our well being under a comfort and understanding of our world, our rules, or laws. To actually break free and make a different choice would cause our subconscious selfs to connect ona level we do not understand as of yet, which the effects of such a choice are unknown to humans.

Has someone done such a thing already? Ya I think so. What does it mean? Where does it lead us? I have no clue, but I will be the first to say that I would take that adventure into the unkown, and have been searching for it since I was created.

I will leave now, as I have written enough for today. Thanks for letting me share with you all here.

I skimmed elegant universe, but didnt grab it, I will probably do so now, string theory and the whole dark matter debate is really interesting, its funny how so many different scientists beleive totaly different things.

Dont worry paperdoll this crap makes my head hurt too, mebby im a mental macchosits or however its spelt.

Ugh Deja vu is drivin me crazy lately, one night at work it was so strong, unbelevably so, I was walking down the hall... stopped and looked at one of the phones on the wall...it rang, I knew it was Rodney one of my team mates, there was a problem with NVW702 (a machine) the test fire failed for minimum thickness, he was going to try it again on one of the other tools....

I picked the phone up, it was Rodney, I was about to tell him what he was going to tell me, the phone died, I stood there, my mind reeling what the f*#$ is going on. I said hello? hello? dude? he then said, that was weird, well NVW702 failed... my brain kinda overloaded and shut down for a moment, I was stunned. I felt like something kept me from telling what was wrong, before he could say it, If I was able, I think the shadow of a doubt that still resides in me would have been banished.

HOOOOOOOOO

Remembering that still gives me the heebiejeebies.

Some paths are harder to find than others.

Have any of you ever started your own path in the woods?

I can't read posts that are so long. It's too overwhelming. I need shortandtothepoint.

I'm not complaining, I'm just saying.

Hey, Redwing, what is ADHD? it sounds alot like me but i've never heard of it before.

Wait ADD like Attention defesit disorder? I think thats what your talking about. Plus I have Dyslexia as well,

But have worked through both of them. One cool thing tho, When I was like 5-9 I could play nintendo and junk with controller upside down. pretty kewl eh?

Rtex is the coolest


**stalks him**

o_0

im adhd, dyslexic... dysgraphic and umm WERID.. just plain weird... and man do I have it bad. I mean, my mind moves so fast that well, I try to make friends my own age... but it seems I dont get along with them im told I do, but I feel more comfortable with kids.. not like 7 8 y/o i mean like 14..15.. where they are old enough to know right form wrong. (im 27) im not some sick perv. My girlfriend (23) knows how i feel, and supports me (shes jsut as immature, but at the same time knows when to be professonal. I dont HANG around with these "kids" I am a member of a scout troop (im an eagle and never left the group) so on campouts im like the big kid... and have a ball, the group loves me there. and dont really care, its not liek I tent with them, I always prefer to be alone, plus there are rules good a good reason. anyway I rambled way to much.. ANYWAY

I have dreams all the time that I am peaing.. either on a tree, or somewhere.. twice now I Have wet the bed. (once at age 11, and 16. to this day im still afraid that its goign to happen again. so, even if I go cabin camping I take a tent. once in a while i'll cabin camp (when im not worying about it or forget to worry about it (which i should)

where was i.

I rememebr dreams I had when I was 3. andi love lucid dreaming.

Chicago, whats the ADHD board? e-mail me.

Ween
- It's an ADHD thing, you wouldn't understand.

Originally posted by nix-man
hey, besides all of your 'adhd people are better than normal people' stuff, whats all this about 'i will drop something and at SOMETIME it will fall UP!', that is just too lame... you cant prove 'gravity wrong', gravity is gravity, there are many reasons, the atmosphere, the planet is a certain size thus causing a certan amount of gravity, the list goes on. but just saying that we restricted ourselves to it is just very lame. thought i could shed some light for you.

It's an ADHD thing, you wouldn't understand.

-Ween

how do you know you have adhd.....my brothers are ocd

I bet, weener, that you could cure yourself of your fear of bedwetting by making sure to reality check every time you need to piss. Also, and I'm sure you do this already, you can piss before you go to sleep just to be sure.

Well, I understand OCD as well. I had a small spat of that, but not a diagnosis. for a while I had this thing where I had to do everything in intervals of 3. or I had to place my pencil down in a vertain position... or things had to be done in even numbers.. (the 3 thing changed..) I understand it. I finally realized it was somply my mind going 500Mph and my body going 100.. anyway. I do take a wizz before bed, but my pint sized bladder is just not large enough for me.. thank god im an outdoorsman, jsut find a tree whip it out and go. made that mistake in a dream once... well I woke up dry.

whats the difference betwen an ADHD Kid and your mom?

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ohh I forgot to tell you that my cat likes water.

-J

That sounds like ocd to me...my brother has to have all the lables on bottles in fridge faceing out. He went on zoloft for awhile and it really mellowed him out and made him alot easier to be around, but it made him gain weight, and he's alittle vain so he went off it. Sometimes I wonder if I have a touch of adhd....sometimes I feel like I'm all over the place...I start a million art projects and never finish them.