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      Consciously Falling Asleep help

      So I need some help falling asleep consciously.

      What I do as I am going to bed is to do a breathing meditation (counting on exhales and restarting at 1 when I reach 10)
      Eventually I start to feel certain nerves or joints twitch and then I get a wave of, the best way to describe it is energy, like a jolt of electricity (not energy as in I want to go run a mile) which I assume is the start of sleep paralysis, my heart rate increases, I can still move but certain body parts feel like they could just float away like my arms. Shortly after this point I always fall asleep. One time I started having hallucinations and could see my legs (if my eyes were open I would be able to see them in the same spot) but again I fell asleep even though I was still keeping up with my meditation.

      Am I doing it wrong? Am I heading in the right direction? Because when I first started doing this I wouldn't feel any of that stuff so I'm assuming I'm at least improving. Is it normal to have that electricity feeling (again thats just the best way I can describe it, it doesn't hurt and has like a neutral feeling to it, I dont get hot/cold or anything) it ussualy does startle me sometimes though because I can tell that its the next thing thats going to happen but not exactly when sometimes it happens 1-4 times before I eventually just fall asleep.

      I also keep a dream journal and do reality checks. I've had a couple lucid dreams before but none where I went from being awake right into the dream consciously.

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      Your technique is fine and the sensations are common. You're going in the right direction. The next two things to think about is timing and letting yourself fall asleep.

      (Aside: Some will say you don't need sleep paralysis to WILD. In fact, "sleep paralysis" isn't the best word to describe what you and many others experience with this technique. I really wish we called it "hypnogogic atonia" or something like that. Regardless of the choice of words, and remembering that these sensations aren't necessary for WILD, they are very common especially when you're first practicing so I think they do indicate good progress.)

      So for timing, you didn't say exactly when during the night you are trying this. The standard advice is don't try this when you first go to bed because you need to be near a REM period. Try it after 4-6 hours of sleep. Ideally, you wake up naturally after a non-lucid dream in that time frame, journal that dream, and then attempt WILD. Personally, I think there's another sweet spot after 8+ hours of sleep if your body is able to sleep that long (try it on a lazy weekend when you have time to sleep in and can block sound and sunlight). You can also set an alarm if you don't wake up naturally. If using an alarm, try a gentle one that uses vibration or gradually increasing volume. There's many phone apps that do that.

      Now for letting yourself fall asleep, this is the part that people have the most difficulty with. It's good that you are able get to the hypnogogic state where you start to get the sensations and hallucinations, but you must not focus too hard. Counting your breaths is a good way to relax and get to that state, but I think you want to transition to a lighter focus when you're getting closer to sleep. There's a delicate balance between staying awake and letting go into sleep, and it just takes practice and experimentation. Many people develop their own style and if you search DreamViews for WILD techniques and anchors, you will find many experienced WILDers have shared their thoughts. The first thing is to remain calm when the sensations start. It may startle you the first few times, but soon they will become familiar. When you feel them, return to your breath and welcome the sensations in. Then I like to use a visualization to ease into the dream state. I imagine the sensation of falling through the bed, which is how I typically enter WILD. Others levitate off the bed or enter a tunnel. Let your mind wander a bit and periodically return gently to imagining the visualized scene or sensation until it happens and bang, you're in the dream. But that's just my method, look for others with WILD anchors to find something that makes sense to you.
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      How much of a possibility is it to go from being awake all day to going to bed straight into wild because that would be my preferred method if its possible. Also I have a roomate thats loud all night, if its possible for me to get into the state that I get into (mentioned in my first post) would it still be possible to enter into a wild like that. Or just make it harder, which I would assume becomes easier after time.

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      Sorry to say that I haven't heard of anyone having success with WILD at first bedtime. Even I have tried it out of curiosity (probably everyone has) and learned the same lesson that others have that it doesn't work. The thing is you need to have REM sleep for lucid dreams and REM is only prevalent later in the night. If your breathwork and meditation help you to fall asleep, then go for it, but understand that the chance of WILD is practically nil. There are some other unorthodox options. Napping in the afternoon is an opportunity for WILD. And there are polyphasic sleep schedules that allow for dreaming at very different hours. But with a normal schedule, experience tells us that WILD is best done after 4-6 hours of sleep when the REM periods are closer.
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      One of my friends IRL has achieved WILD at bedtime, so it's possible, but it takes the 90 minutes of a sleep cycle to do it.
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