Thread: How to make the best use of LD?

A couple of weeks ago I saw a video of Tim Ferriss in which he talks about how LD enabled him to train with his mentor, which ultimately increased his performance in wrestling.

I want to know what do the members of this forum utilize LD for.

There is a lot of practical use for LDs and my long term goals include creating persistent worlds to experience different realities. However, for the time being I'm content using it to hangout with my departed significant other. If it helps prevent a bereaved from going insane, LD is serving a very therapeutic function. It also sheds light into possibility of afterlife as my significant other sometimes shows up as a very hyperconscious entity. ^^

I am preparing for a competitive exam, at night I revise the concepts that I learned throughout the day, I often end up staying late.
I LD once in 10-15 days, I was wondering if I could train myself to LD regularly (at least on alternate days) so that I don't have to stay up late every now and then. My plan is to reach a stage where I am revising the concepts by LDing every night. Is it possible?

Here's a bit of irony for you, Unnu:

Originally Posted by unnu

I am preparing for a competitive exam, at night I revise the concepts that I learned throughout the day, I often end up staying late.
I LD once in 10-15 days, I was wondering if I could train myself to LD regularly (at least on alternate days) so that I don't have to stay up late every now and then. My plan is to reach a stage where I am revising the concepts by LDing every night. Is it possible?

I have a sneaking suspicion that, if you were to develop a mindset that welcomes a LD every night, you will find yourself much more interested in exploring the potentials of lucidity and your imagination than you will be in augmenting waking-life tasks. As you come to understand and recognize those potentials, both during your dreams and during the waking-life practice necessary to achieve that kind of consistency, I think you might just find yourself far more interested in exploring those potentials -- by going places and doing things that challenge your imagination and strengthen your very soul -- than you will in, say, revising concepts for school, or perhaps honing your sporting skills.

Sure, lucidity is a nice tool for augmenting your waking-life skills, but I question whether it is really worthwhile to use LD's simply as a way to find more time to hone your waking-life skills... why not use that time instead to discover new skills or activities that cannot possibly exist in waking-life, and simply find more time during waking-life to work on the mundane stuff?

Originally Posted by Sageous

Here's a bit of irony for you, Unnu:



I have a sneaking suspicion that, if you were to develop a mindset that welcomes a LD every night, you will find yourself much more interested in exploring the potentials of lucidity and your imagination than you will be in augmenting waking-life tasks. As you come to understand and recognize those potentials, both during your dreams and during the waking-life practice necessary to achieve that kind of consistency, I think you might just find yourself far more interested in exploring those potentials -- by going places and doing things that challenge your imagination and strengthen your very soul -- than you will in, say, revising concepts for school, or perhaps honing your sporting skills.

Sure, lucidity is a nice tool for augmenting your waking-life skills, but I question whether it is really worthwhile to use LD's simply as a way to find more time to hone your waking-life skills... why not use that time instead to discover new skills or activities that cannot possibly exist in waking-life, and simply find more time during waking-life to work on the mundane stuff?

I agree with you Sageous, in fact, that was my actual intention for getting into LDing. But after watching Tim Ferriss talk about how he utilized LDing for his training made me wonder if it is possible to do that on a regular-basis.

I would like to put it in this way "Instead of creating an alternate reality in which I am travelling the world, bungee jumping, trekking, cycling along mississippi and drifitng cars, I could work on my career to get a high paying job, after which I'll start a business and create an ideal lifestyle in which I am doing all that crazy stuff in real life rather than in dream life", how does it sound.

EDIT: my reply feels kinda offensive but that's not what I meant. I'll still dream about my ideal lifestyle every now and then. But from little experience in LDing I know that LDing has an immense potential, may be I'll come up with an even better idea for my business, or learn more skills so I get promoted faster.

Originally Posted by lucidbunnie

There is a lot of practical use for LDs and my long term goals include creating persistent worlds to experience different realities. However, for the time being I'm content using it to hangout with my departed significant other. If it helps prevent a bereaved from going insane, LD is serving a very therapeutic function. It also sheds light into possibility of afterlife as my significant other sometimes shows up as a very hyperconscious entity. ^^

Sorry for your loss, staying away from our significant other is hard. My girlfriend went to the UK to complete her Master's degree, it's been a tough year for me so far.

Studying, practicing some sports. Creating new ideas, creating new worlds, stress release, idea maker, exploring yourself, changing yourself, thats some of the things I use LDing for.

^^ You may have misunderstood my point, Unnu.

My point was that, should you actually put in the time and work necessary to develop a mindset that can conjure lucidity every night (aka, on demand), then in the process of doing so you might just discover that there is much more available to you during LD's than just amplifying waking-life activity. In other words, you probably will see more potential in lucidity than just doing mundane things like, say, "traveling the world, bungee jumping, trekking, cycling along Mississippi and drifting cars." I was saying that a truly lucid mindset might find you seeing that there is more to it all than just augmenting whatever you're doing during the day... and that "more" might be something you never imagined...

I actually once held similar goals to yours, but during my time developing LD'ing as such a tool, I found that the deeper potentials of lucidity dramatically outweighed the "practical" stuff I had initially planned: Early in my LD'ing life, I had planned to use my LD's to help me develop a career as a novelist. It worked to a degree -- much of my work is based on my dreams, though I never did "bring back" that perfect novel I imagined I could make in my dreams -- but in the process I realized that there is so much more to this state of consciousness than just augmenting or improving my waking-life activities.

So, yes, you can certainly use LD'ing to give yourself more time to, say, hone your business skills or perhaps find just the right things you need to advance your career, and that is never a bad thing. But, when you gain the skills and wisdom necessary to achieve such things, you might just discover that such things don't matter as much anymore. That was my point.

EDIT: my reply feels kinda offensive but that's not what I meant. I'll still dream about my ideal lifestyle every now and then. But from little experience in LDing I know that LDing has an immense potential, may be I'll come up with an even better idea for my business, or learn more skills so I get promoted faster.

I was not offended at all (you gotta do a lot more than that!), but perhaps a bit disappointed, because to me LD'ing is about much, much more than having better ideas for business, getting yourself promoted, or improving your material status (and I was not including things like "traveling the world, bungee jumping, trekking, cycling along mississippi and drifting cars" in my concept of "more." BTW); I guess I hoped my post would have made that sentiment clear.

Hey sage, now I get your point, thanks for your post