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      Quote Originally Posted by snoop View Post
      All in all, it's a never ending process of trying to achieve a greater knowledge of yourself and life. Ultimately it's all part of a broader process of spiritual/psychological enlightenment and transcendence... put in other terms, part of a journey of self-actualization and individuation. I think pursuit of self-improvement, understanding, and self-actualization/individuation is perhaps the greatest way of indirectly improving one's ability to lucid dream. Honestly, I think making progress on this front has greater potential to improve lucidity than directly practicing lucid dreaming can and often does.
      This really resonates with me. But I'm also thinking that it can be turned around the other way as well......a greater degree of consciousness (lucidity) during our dream state can lead to more self-improvement, understanding and self-actualization along with enhanced spiritual enlightenment as a whole being.

      I'm thinking that in the dream state we are immersed in an outpouring of....self....from our sub-conscious. The more conscious we can become in the presence of that outpouring, the more it will become part of the entire fabric of our being. It is this potential that has attracted me so strongly to lucid dreaming.

      Thoughts on that?
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      Quote Originally Posted by lenscaper View Post
      This really resonates with me. But I'm also thinking that it can be turned around the other way as well......a greater degree of consciousness (lucidity) during our dream state can lead to more self-improvement, understanding and self-actualization along with enhanced spiritual enlightenment as a whole being.

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      Absolutely, that's the great part about the lucid dreaming. Any great length of time dedicated to lucid dreaming inevitably points people toward self-actualization, self knowledge, and spiritual growth because the two things have so much overlap and complement one another so well. Well, that's my opinion anyway.
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      Hi lenscaper and all. snoop you are so right. As I said in my dream journal today I started late in life and it needed a lot of effort to achieve LD. I've lost the ability at the moment but it led on to so many other things...meditation, an interest in Buddhism, the brain, DMT etc. It encouraged spiritual development. Although I envy those who have natural LD ability I also realise that without the difficult journey I had I might never have progressed to a more spiritual awareness...instead I might have just got caught up in the trip rather than the lessons to be had. Love you all
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      Quote Originally Posted by LukeSid View Post
      I also realise that without the difficult journey I had I might never have progressed to a more spiritual awareness...instead I might have just got caught up in the trip rather than the lessons to be had. Love you all
      This really resonates with me, LukeSid.

      This early on in my journey I am only experiencing lucid moments and I have yet to master any degree of real control.......but each and every attempt, along with my daytime exercises, leads me closer to my goal of awakening more consciousness and spiritual awareness.

      For me, this journey is just as rewarding as the glimpses of the destination.
      The more I gaze....the more I crave to see

      When you next stand at cliff's edge....will you finally learn to fly?

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