Postwhoring is bad

Billybob it is indeed hard to figure out the main point of your post, but I think I got it. You are saying that the dreamer cant be lucid and involved in the dream plot at the same time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying lucid dreaming sucks by any means. All I'm saying is that its not comparable to real life, If you ever decide "I want to be peter pan" or something similar (role-playing) it would be nothing like real life, your natural mental processes would kick in and you would actually become peter pan, (think about it, when your playing a video game do you steadily think: "I'm a person holding a controller"? of course not, that would ruin the fun of it. In the same way when lucid you don't want to steadily think "I'm (insert your name), and I'm in a dream right now", If you do falter and stop thinking "I'm me and I'm in a dream right now" you'll fall into the illusion and never come out till you wake up the next morning.[/b]
I'd like to take a shot at solving this mystery. Remember a while ago you made a post about excerting "the ultimate control" over a dream? You were using a dream bathroom as an example - everything there was entirely a product of your own mind. Back then I knew something was wrong with that idea and now I see the result. You totally removed all charm and mystery from your dreams - you and the dream are one. In the peter pan roleplay you would know and think that the characters around you are fake and represent yourself.
Just think about it, I'm not saying I'm right or anything like that.

Sometimes I feel the way you do - I'm above the dream, nothing matters and it kinda fades into background. I try to carry out whatever experiment I'm doing paying absolutely no attention to the dream because I know it's a dream.
On the other hand there are a lot more times when I'm aware yet involved in the dream - I talk to the DCs, I treat them and the surrounding as if it was real. In these cases I'm myself and the dream replaces real life - it is entirely independent of me and I interact with it instead of controlling it.

The other day I was surfing on a river (it was weird), I was lucid yet I was so absorbed in the process that I didnt do anything, Just continued to surf and that was a lot of fun. Pure undiluted fun

Lol, this is contagious. I've made a post and I'm not sure if it answers any of your questions about dream realism, but I hope you will find some things useful.


I dont know about your daytime LD idea - it sounds difficult to implement